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Post by Silver_Shiney » 28 Jan 2014, 21:05

First of all, many thanks to David for indulging me by setting up this sub-forum.

The Lady C has decided that railway modelling would be an ideal pastime for my retirement in a few years' time but I'm already starting to construct little buildings for it.

I've subscribed to "Your model railway village" and the Hornby magazine.

Are Notso and I the only ones interested in this hobby?
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Post by oldbluefox » 28 Jan 2014, 21:25

Looking at some of those photos in the Hornby magazine it's difficult to distinguish models from the real thing. Amazing!!

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Post by The Tinker » 28 Jan 2014, 21:28

It would seem so SS - my OH went through this phase before the kids were born and our 2nd bedroom was a tiny railway village. It is quite absorbing making and painting the little houses, etc. Sadly all that is left is his Triang trains plus boxes which are apparently worth a bit which all now live in the loft.

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 28 Jan 2014, 22:02

The Tinker wrote:It would seem so SS - my OH went through this phase before the kids were born and our 2nd bedroom was a tiny railway village. It is quite absorbing making and painting the little houses, etc. Sadly all that is left is his Triang trains plus boxes which are apparently worth a bit which all now live in the loft.
If they're the original boxes for the contents, they'll be worth a small fortune, Tinks
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Post by Manoverboard » 29 Jan 2014, 09:18

Long story but ....

In the dim and distant circa 1979 >> 1981 I set up a 16ft x 4ft track in the loft of a previous home for the boys.

The layout was based on a plan within the Hornby Plans book of that period but expanded to include six seperate tracks each complete with platforms, signals, bridges etc and all using electrified point controls. Also have approx nine engines, twenty coaches and ditto wagons.

All boxed and mint as none were ever used.

Make me a decent offer and its all yours :lol:

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 29 Jan 2014, 13:26

Moby, I would if I was in a position to make you an offer.. :(

I am very fortunate in that my FIL gave me some of his surplus - three engines and several items of rolling stock, some still in their boxes.

I've found a couple of websites that sell print-you-own model buildings and have downloaded a few freebies.
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Post by The Tinker » 29 Jan 2014, 15:54

There used to be a model railway shop in Redfield, Shiney, near the Fountain. Not sure if it is still there but they sold really good models. We had our trains valued a few years ago but decided to hold onto them until desperate times! :clap:

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 29 Jan 2014, 18:24

It's gone, Tinks :(
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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 29 Jan 2014, 18:37

When I saw the title of this thread I'm afraid it conjured up a rather lurid image of you in a gold thong draped across the bonnet, or whatever they call it, of Thomas the Tank Engine - rather in the way that young ladies were used to try to flog Morris Marinas at the motor show.

The result is I have been scarred (and scared) for life and you will be hearing from my solicitor to discuss the matter of compensation for my PTSD.

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Post by The Tinker » 29 Jan 2014, 19:03

I'm sure if this image was on the front of 'Railway Modelling', the sales of the magazine would rocket.

Mervyn - please increase your medication for a few days and these hallucinations will disappear. :lol:

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Post by Not so ancient mariner » 29 Jan 2014, 20:51

Mervyn and Trish wrote:When I saw the title of this thread I'm afraid it conjured up a rather lurid image of you in a gold thong draped across the bonnet, or whatever they call it, of Thomas the Tank Engine - rather in the way that young ladies were used to try to flog Morris Marinas at the motor show.

The result is I have been scarred (and scared) for life and you will be hearing from my solicitor to discuss the matter of compensation for my PTSD.

I'm not sure which part of a loco Mervyn means by 'bonnet' , but I suspect the person draped across it might also be scarred for life, as many parts of a steam loco can get decidedly hot!

30 years ago I lived in the Bath area, and the good model shops I frequented were Challis Models in Shepton Mallet - which I believe is still there, and one by the name of Bailey's Dailies in Brislington, though I think that one has now gone.

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 29 Jan 2014, 21:58

There were two cracking model railway shops in Harrow, when we lived near there in the late 80s.

How's this for an amazing model?
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Post by Not so ancient mariner » 29 Jan 2014, 22:39

Silver_Shiney wrote:There were two cracking model railway shops in Harrow, when we lived near there in the late 80s.

How's this for an amazing model?
I have just looked up Miniatur Wunderland on Google. It is HO (1:87) scale and has 12km - yes Kilometres of track. It even includes a model of one of the Aida Cruise ships (?Blu?) which must be in the region of 10ft long. I hate to think how much it cost or how many man hours of work have gone into it. I'm afraid most of us don't have the space needed either!

Has Brize Norton got any spare hangars for rent??


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Post by Quizzical Bob » 30 Jan 2014, 00:15

That's unbelievable.

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 30 Jan 2014, 07:10

It's "only" €12 to get in! Must look up flights to Hanburg!
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Post by Quizzical Bob » 30 Jan 2014, 10:03

Silver_Shiney wrote:It's "only" €12 to get in! Must look up flights to Hanburg!
Hanburg? Is that the airport that Ryanair fly to? ;)

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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 30 Jan 2014, 12:15

No, that's Cheeseburg.

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 30 Jan 2014, 13:03

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Silver_Shiney wrote:It's "only" €12 to get in! Must look up flights to Hanburg!
Hanburg? Is that the airport that Ryanair fly to? ;)
I certainly won't be flying with them. I prefer proper airlines
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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 30 Jan 2014, 18:48

We did once benefit from Ryan's eccentric destinations in that their version of Frankfurt airport was over an hour less driving to our final target.

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 30 Jan 2014, 18:57

Anyway, to get back on track, so to speak... ;)

I've downloaded this model of a terraced house and, despite my cackhandedness, am quite pleased with the results.

It's also a good way of recycling old cereal boxes!
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Post by Silver_Shiney » 01 Feb 2014, 21:10

As if having model trains running round your model landscape wasn't enough, you can now have model cars driving round your scenery!
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Post by Not so ancient mariner » 01 Feb 2014, 22:03

Silver_Shiney wrote:As if having model trains running round your model landscape wasn't enough, you can now have model cars driving round your scenery!

Of course, if your little people are not that affluent, then this might be more appropriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewfuFYavHP8

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 21 Feb 2014, 13:04

How's thisfor a model?
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Post by Silver_Shiney » 21 Feb 2014, 13:05

My SIL has bought me a flight to go to Hamburg as a birthday present, for me to visit that humungous model railway!
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Post by oldbluefox » 22 Feb 2014, 17:48

That's your story...................... :wave:

Let us know what you think when you get back.

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Post by Kendhni » 23 Feb 2014, 08:46

My father used to have a collection of old Hornby trains and a large amount of track. We used to love playing with them as kids. Sadly when we were clearing out the house none of us wanted them so they all went in the skip ... probably a stupid mistake since they may have been worth something.

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 23 Feb 2014, 09:10

Kendhni wrote:My father used to have a collection of old Hornby trains and a large amount of track. We used to love playing with them as kids. Sadly when we were clearing out the house none of us wanted them so they all went in the skip ... probably a stupid mistake since they may have been worth something.
I reckon we've all chucked stuff out only to see the same thing valued at eye-popping prices on Antiques Roadshow!!
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Post by Kendhni » 23 Feb 2014, 09:41

Silver_Shiney wrote:
Kendhni wrote:My father used to have a collection of old Hornby trains and a large amount of track. We used to love playing with them as kids. Sadly when we were clearing out the house none of us wanted them so they all went in the skip ... probably a stupid mistake since they may have been worth something.
I reckon we've all chucked stuff out only to see the same thing valued at eye-popping prices on Antiques Roadshow!!
I remember when we were clearing out my parents house we all took the little mementos we wanted but the house was still full. We tried to give everything to charity but they had no interest so we hired a couple of skips and pretty much dumped everything but large furniture in them. This included most of fathers stamp collection (I kept some of it); old original papers from famous points in history that my father collected; old 78 records some of which were original Elvis pressings; dozens of pieces of Waterford and Tyrone crystal; dozens of Franklin mint decorative plates; all the electrical goods ... simply because none of us had any room for them or time to spend auctioning them off on the likes of eBay.

We made a big fubah though. My aunt (mothers sister) asked about an old china set that my mother had displayed for as long as I can remember in a cabinet and we said that it had also been thrown in the skip ... my aunt was very annoyed (understatement of the century) ... apparently this had been passed down for several generations and was given to my great great (not sure how many) grandfather by a member of the royal family (from their own private collection .. it had apparently been used by royalty/dignitaries from all over the world). My aunt went on for quite a while about the history of this set (I had glazed over by that point .. and wondered if the DNA could be extracted from the set that was now a significant jigsaw puzzle .. no tube of superglue was going to fix it).

So the moral of the story is that if you have something valuable ... make sure your family know about it.

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 23 Feb 2014, 09:48

Quite so, Ken - my mum has acquired a roll of easily-removed stickers, with which she is going to label everything that is valuable so that my sister and I don't throw it out when the time comes.
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Post by Silver_Shiney » 25 Feb 2014, 17:47

Next stop.... New York
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Silver_Shiney wrote:Next stop.... New York

May I ask what this link is? I'm reading this during my lunchbreak at work, and the software won't let me open it as it contains "Pornography/adult material" :o :shock: :!:

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 26 Feb 2014, 13:16

Not so ancient mariner wrote:
Silver_Shiney wrote:Next stop.... New York

May I ask what this link is? I'm reading this during my lunchbreak at work, and the software won't let me open it as it contains "Pornography/adult material" :o :shock: :!:
Interesting.... I've got pretty tight security at home, and the office has good security too, and I'm able to open it at both locations....

It's some guy in NY who's built a huge model railway - looks like it's underneath a shop that he runs.

Definitely no sign of porn on the site.
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Post by Quizzical Bob » 26 Feb 2014, 14:12

Silver_Shiney wrote:My SIL has bought me a flight to go to Hamburg as a birthday present, for me to visit that humungous model railway!
Michael Portillo featured the Miniatur Wunderland on his Great Continental railway journeys series. What I liked was the special figurine of him that they made specially.



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Post by Silver_Shiney » 06 Apr 2014, 21:24

I've been trying my hand at using water-based acrylic paint to colour plastic kits. I tried this years ago and slapped the paint straight on to the model and it was an absolute disaster.

It turns out that what you have to do is wash the parts thoroughly in washing up liquid, giving them a good scrub with an old toothbrush, then wipe them with methylated spirits.

Then dilute the acrylics with water 40/60, and brush on. Any mistakes can be washed off.
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Post by qbman1 » 07 Apr 2014, 16:32

You should meet my neighbour. He is an engineer with one of the F1 teams but has build a scale railway running right around the back garden with a couple of accurate replica bridges and viaducts, a village and station. It is strangely appealing on a summer evening when he has his loco steaming around the track (real steam, mind you !). Last summer he was photographing a blackbird sitting at the top of a tree and when I questioned him about it, it turned out he was creating a pub sign for the new building he was adding to his village.....that's right, it is called the Red Lion !!!

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Post by Not so ancient mariner » 08 Apr 2014, 12:49

If one wishes to find me this weekend, I shall be at Scalefour North at Queen Elizabeth Grammar School in Wakefield, mostly operating 'Clecklewyke'. I could always take my hat if requested.

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 16 Apr 2014, 13:19

Not so ancient mariner wrote:If one wishes to find me this weekend, I shall be at Scalefour North at Queen Elizabeth Grammar School in Wakefield, mostly operating 'Clecklewyke'. I could always take my hat if requested.

This is yours?

More photos, please!
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Post by Silver_Shiney » 16 Apr 2014, 13:21

Ah - just found more on Flickr.

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Post by Quizzical Bob » 16 Apr 2014, 13:40

Silver_Shiney wrote:Ah - just found more on Flickr.

I'm impressed, sir!
Me too. Respect! :thumbup:

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Post by oldbluefox » 16 Apr 2014, 16:42

Last year I went to a Model Railway exhibition which was showing locally. With no more than a passing interest (and fascination) I thought the layouts were absolutely magnificent. I was amazed by the enthusiasm and dedication of those who were displaying their layouts by the amount of detail, especially in the layouts which were model reconstructions of actual goods yards, stations etc. And some of the gauges were so small the layouts could fit into a suitcase but would need a steady hand and good eyesight. They are truly impressive.


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Post by Quizzical Bob » 16 Apr 2014, 17:54

On our wonderful cruise on Aurora back from Dubai last year we shared our table with a lovely couple who were both model railway enthusiasts. The lady was N gauge whilst the gentleman was OO/HO.

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 16 Apr 2014, 18:19

Quizzical Bob wrote:On our wonderful cruise on Aurora back from Dubai last year we shared our table with a lovely couple who were both model railway enthusiasts. The lady was N gauge whilst the gentleman was OO/HO.
but what scale did they model in? :lol: :lol: :wave:
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Quizzical Bob wrote:
Silver_Shiney wrote:Ah - just found more on Flickr.

I'm impressed, sir!
Me too. Respect! :thumbup:


Sorry, but regrettably it's not mine. It belongs to a friend who I have known since we were at universities in Edinburgh over 40 years ago.

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 03 May 2014, 23:00

Some amazing things here
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Post by Not so ancient mariner » 04 May 2014, 00:47

Silver_Shiney wrote:Some amazing things here

There's a chap who lives near Preston who has built a (nearly) complete 4mm scale model of Preston station as it used to be, complete with full signalling (again as it used to be) with one signal box (there are four in total) having 162 levers- all electrically interlocked to prevent conflicting movements. My friend Ian, who owns Clecklewyke, documented one of our annual visits in his blog. http://clecklewyke.wordpress.com/

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 04 May 2014, 09:06

That looks fantastic, Notso!

One thing I can't understand is the operation of end-to-end layouts. One chap yesterday said, of his 4' x 1' with fiddle yard, that it was about showing how a layout can be constructed in a very small space. Certainly, it was a magnificent model, but where is the operating pleasure? I like to see trains running around. Perhaps a few sidings where a long goods train can pull in and a shunter start to dismantle it into varying sidings according to purpose, and then reconstruct it. There was one model there of an iron works, which had several sidings in a 5' long layout, but the only thing that seemed to be happening was a siren would sound, a door lift open in a building stage left, and an engine would appear pulling a wagon of some sort to disappear stage right. A minute or two later, the process would be reversed. I can't understand that sort of layout.
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Post by Not so ancient mariner » 04 May 2014, 13:03

Silver_Shiney wrote:That looks fantastic, Notso!

One thing I can't understand is the operation of end-to-end layouts. One chap yesterday said, of his 4' x 1' with fiddle yard, that it was about showing how a layout can be constructed in a very small space. Certainly, it was a magnificent model, but where is the operating pleasure? I like to see trains running around. Perhaps a few sidings where a long goods train can pull in and a shunter start to dismantle it into varying sidings according to purpose, and then reconstruct it. There was one model there of an iron works, which had several sidings in a 5' long layout, but the only thing that seemed to be happening was a siren would sound, a door lift open in a building stage left, and an engine would appear pulling a wagon of some sort to disappear stage right. A minute or two later, the process would be reversed. I can't understand that sort of layout.

Just like Batty and his Thompson booze cruises - we all have different tastes. Anyhow very few people have the space to have a decent continuous run set up. In 4mm scale, even an 8' x 4' area is little bigger than some of the largest football stadia in the UK, and first radius curves is very much like running trains around an Olympic standard running track.
The workhorse loco of todays railway, the class 66, cannot negotiate curves of less than 4 chains radius (and then at miniumum speed) That's roughly 3'6" in 4mm scale.

http://www.tventon.freeserve.co.uk/ Here's another one that's a bit nearer to home for you. Whereas I was Ian Everett's best man, Tim Venton was mine.

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 04 May 2014, 14:13

Thank you for that, Notso, very interesting.

I can't remember if I mentioned, but I subscribed to that "Your Model Railway Village" and the track plan for that would take up most of our lounge - not that the Lady C would allow me to have it there (even though it was she who got me started on this in the first place!). So I reckon it's going to be a loft jobbie, but, being a fairly modern house (1990), the baseboard would have to go inside the two pairs of supporting struts, which would (I think) somewhat spoil the line of sight along the layout. A futher complication is that the loft hatch and entry ladder come up between two of the struts, which would necessitate a end-to-end layout unless I can blag a bit of space deeper into the eaves on which to construct a Radius 4 loop, probably inside a tunnel (open at the end for ease of access in the case of derailments)

Do you have a layout yourself or do you just help out with Clecklewyke?
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Post by Not so ancient mariner » 04 May 2014, 14:52

I have the baseboards for one (12' x 2'6") that I was building in the garages, but a major roof leak rather spoiled things - and fried the electrics in the garage - so it has never been used for anything other than test running of locos and stock.

Ypu could always have some form of lifting bridge over your loft hatch area

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Post by Silver_Shiney » 04 May 2014, 15:38

I'd thought of that, but I need the next space as the walk-way in!
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