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Post by david63 » 22 May 2019, 18:53

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Although it wasn't the same table every morning in Epicurean
Obviously you were doing something wrong as we always have had the same table.

I agree with Freedom and the problem is that on P&O Freedom dining is effectively three sittings of Club dining but not necessarily same table/companions/time. I just hope that with Iona being all Freedom that they have a re think and organise it better.
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Or is it by chance and could a chronologically experienced couple such as us find ourselves seated with a bunch of well oiled, loud, impossibly tight lycra clad 20 somethings?
My, very limited, experience is that they just take passengers as they come and put them on the table size requested - maybe if there are a lot all at the same time they may "mix and match".

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Post by Gill W » 22 May 2019, 21:11

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I understand what you’re saying about guests leaving a larger table before everyone has finished. But on the other hand, I wouldn’t want to miss the show/quiz/concert every night as would happen on one table we were on. Every single night - it ruined the cruise for us. We have never shared a table since!
Yes, we had a situation like that as well.

We were on a table with the slowest eater in the world, and she also wanted starter and soup. As the cruise went on, she slowed up even more as she was talking more as she got to know everyone. We gave up on the shows in the end. It also didn't help that she was very softly spoken and you had to strain your ears to hear her.

She was a perfectly nice woman, but she did impact on our enjoyment of the cruise.

Wherever possible, we now have tables for two, where we can eat at our own pace, and not have to wait for people to have extra courses that we're not having,
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Post by GillD46 » 22 May 2019, 22:14

That is exactly us Gill. We rarely eat more than two courses, often only one and don’t want to sit for hours, can’t sit for hours in fact, waiting while others chomp through the entire menu. A table for two, or we eat elsewhere, other than the very occasional night.
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Post by Ray B » 22 May 2019, 23:58

I am on holiday and I enjoy club dining, and eating and enjoying dinner is a big part of of this enjoyment. I like to have the four courses plus cheese if I desire to, it's my holiday. If a fellow table companion would like to leave the table early to go to a show, a polite request to the table to say would we mind if they left would be in order. I feel it is wrong to blame a diner if he/she eats slow or goes through the menu, after all, we are not all the same, but we are all trying to enjoy our holiday.

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Post by GillD46 » 23 May 2019, 05:23

Of course Ray and apologies if it sounded as though I felt you shouldn’t. But for those that do want to leave the table before others have finished, for whatever reason, it shouldn’t be frowned up if they leave early. My husband simply can’t tolerate sitting that long each night, it causes him great pain, me too to a lesser degree, which is why after our “difficult” table, we decided to only dine at a two top.
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Post by Manoverboard » 23 May 2019, 08:31

If one wishes to leave early from time to time / all the time then surely a ' proclamation ' of one's intentions at the outset will put everybody in the picture, ditto re alternate venues or the Curry Night.

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Post by GillD46 » 23 May 2019, 08:46

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If one wishes to leave early from time to time / all the time then surely a ' proclamation ' of one's intentions at the outset will put everybody in the picture, ditto re alternate venues or the Curry Night.
You’d think so. Except in our instance the rest of the table always arrived late, ate every course and ate very slowly, so to see a show we’d have needed to leave at the main course stage. Since we never eat a starter and my husband likes a dessert, and the table is all served together we had to sit for ages just waiting, then to eat what we’d ordered miss the entertainment. On the odd occasion we did leave, there was much tutting and sighing.

It just wasn’t worth it.
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Post by Manoverboard » 23 May 2019, 09:07

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If one wishes to leave early from time to time / all the time then surely a ' proclamation ' of one's intentions at the outset will put everybody in the picture, ditto re alternate venues or the Curry Night.
You’d think so. Except in our instance the rest of the table always arrived late, ate every course and ate very slowly, so to see a show we’d have needed to leave at the main course stage. Since we never eat a starter and my husband likes a dessert, and the table is all served together we had to sit for ages just waiting, then to eat what we’d ordered miss the entertainment. On the odd occasion we did leave, there was much tutting and sighing.

It just wasn’t worth it.
Ah yes … the good old tutting and sighing :lol:

As an aside I would mention that we also opt for tables for two.

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Post by GillD46 » 23 May 2019, 09:28

Easier by far.
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Post by Ray B » 23 May 2019, 09:37

Gill, it sounds like it was not a very friendly table you had there. I will say that in my 20+ years of cruising we have always had good to really good table companions, but who knows what the next cruise will bring.

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Post by GillD46 » 23 May 2019, 12:37

In the main they were friendly, but they took AGES over dinner, far longer than is usual. Most of them had done the whole World whereas we were only on for six weeks.

Anyway, it won’t happen again so not an issue now - for us.
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Post by Stephen » 23 May 2019, 13:56

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In the main they were friendly, but they took AGES over dinner, far longer than is usual. Most of them had done the whole World whereas we were only on for six weeks.

Anyway, it won’t happen again so not an issue now - for us.
Probably second hand reconditioned false teeth they were running in for someone else :D

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Post by david63 » 23 May 2019, 13:59

I have noticed that where some on the table have starter and soup (me being one of them) and others only one of them that the waiters manage to serve the soup whilst the others are still finishing their starter.

This whole issue is even worse with Freedom dining and tables for two where the whole group of tables are served the courses simultaneously meaning that those who are not having soup have to wait for their main course until the soup eaters have finished.

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Post by Gill W » 23 May 2019, 19:48

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I am on holiday and I enjoy club dining, and eating and enjoying dinner is a big part of of this enjoyment. I like to have the four courses plus cheese if I desire to, it's my holiday. If a fellow table companion would like to leave the table early to go to a show, a polite request to the table to say would we mind if they left would be in order. I feel it is wrong to blame a diner if he/she eats slow or goes through the menu, after all, we are not all the same, but we are all trying to enjoy our holiday.
I like to have coffee after my meal, but if the meal had taken a long time, and I felt I needed to leave the table to go to the show, I'd probably miss out on coffee. In any event, I'd just feel plain rude if I was leaving the table early every night.

I certainly wasn't blaming other diners. As you say, we are not all the same, so I've taken steps to ensure that this situation doesn't arise. On a table for two, we eat at our own pace and leave when we are ready to go.
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Post by Whynd1 » 23 May 2019, 21:07

As it has been said we are all different, I tend to feel a bit claustrophobic in some of the older theatres where the seating is in tightly packed rows, so am not bothered about the shows.
So it doesn't worry me if our table takes it time, and if fellow diners want to leave for the show I have no objection whatsoever.
I was one on a table though where an elderly gentleman diner ate through every course ever so slowly,and severly taxed the waiters who pounced on his plate as soon as he had finished.
It gave us a few laughs.

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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 26 May 2019, 11:49

So another instalment. The rest of the "luxury" experience. With a P&O suite it really is mostly about the cabin and breakfast. You do get priority boarding and disembarkation and tendering if your loyalty grade doesn't include that already. The latter removed the need to collect tickets and wait your turn. Just go straight to the appointed public area, a restaurant in our case, when you're ready. You still have to queue in the usual way to get back.

Of course the Princess Grills give you access to the private area, which as well as the restaurants and courtyard includes the Grills Lounge and the Terrace. There are two levels of the latter which have sunbeds, some shaded, with cushions thicker than many mattresses. Very comfortable. Sadly I have to report that Grills passengers are no better behaved than sny others when ir comes to bagging the beds in the best spots and then vanishing. It's not normally a problem as there are plenty of them. It was one day when it has hot in the sun and half the beds in the shade were occupied only by towels, books snd iPhones.

The lounge is a very pleasant lounge /bar, a quiet oasis most of the time, with stewards who quickly learned their clients usual tipple. The view is not as good as the Commodore Club, however. This being the Crows Nest in P&O terms.

The whole complex is accessed by two midships lifts which require the insertion of a cruise card to get above the public deck 10 tobthe exclusive 11 and 12.

So for the luxury extras a big win for Cunard.
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Post by Stephen » 26 May 2019, 12:00

It was one day when it has hot in the sun and half the beds in the shade were occupied only by towels, books snd iPhones.



You should have had a word with management.

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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 26 May 2019, 12:19

For the rest of the ship much of it is about mid sized ship versus bigger ship. But there are also significant differences between the lines.

Cunard is more expensive in every way, from basic price through drinks snd tours to teddy bears. It's also in dollars so there is the added cost of currency conversion dependent of course on how you manage that.

It is, an officer confirmed, a deliberate policy to differentiate the lines by price. No point in Carnival chasing the sarne clients with two lines. There is also a step up in formality on Cunard, with a jacket required on non formal nights. My impression is that while there are minor deviations from the code there is no downright fingers up at it and no tracksuits and lycra in the evenings. Sorry if I sound a snob again, but I think Cunard are targeting me!

They do apparently have an aim of a broadly 50:50 British/American mix on Southampton sailings, with a range of other nationalities thrown in, as opposed to the British market P&O appeal. Cunard widely market the sailings as fly cruises in the States.

So all that clearly results in a generally more up market passenger mix on the Cunard ship. Looking at recent offers you can get Azura and Ventura under £100 per person per night on some sailings. No surprise 7 nights is becoming the new booze cruise sadly. But we can't gripe. It makes cruising more affordable for us too.

Entertainment was pretty similar. In fact one act, the 4 Tunes, who were excellent, were on both ships. We thought P&O edged it in the production shows, particularly with the two new ones we'd not seen which were so different from previous offerings.

For ballroom and latin dancing, our new hobby, there's no comparison. Despite learning on Ventura, a very special memory, nothing touches Cunard's Queen's Rooms for dance floors at sea.

There is no Freedom Dining on Victoria. They handle it a different way. As well as the Grills there is the slightly lesser Britannia Club experience. It's the same menus as the usual MDR but in a smaller single flexible sitting restaurant. Like the Grills turn up to your own reserved table at the time of your choosing. Freedom dining without stress and pagers.

Another difference which may affect future choices is that luxury comes packaged on Cunard. To get the mini suite or suite cabins you have to have the whole deal. You can't opt for a posh cabin and lesser dining. If you're in the Britannia MDR the best cabin available is a balcony. That's what you get with Club too.

It contrasts with P&O where cabin and dining choices are separate.
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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 26 May 2019, 12:29

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It was one day when it has hot in the sun and half the beds in the shade were occupied only by towels, books snd iPhones.



You should have had a word with management.
I suspect if we had heads would have rolled. But we couldn't be bothered. We'll get them at playtime later

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Post by david63 » 26 May 2019, 13:01

Good comparison reports Merv.

I get the overall impression that it is a bit of "swings and roundabouts" and you get what you pay for and that overall Cunard wins 52% to 48% (perhaps you need a re-run to give P&O another chance!). In your opinion is Cunard worth the extra cost over P&O?
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Like the Grills turn up to your own reserved table at the time of your choosing. Freedom dining without stress and pagers.
I do wish P&O would offer something along those lines - hopefully on Iona!
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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 26 May 2019, 13:30

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Good comparison reports Merv.

I get the overall impression that it is a bit of "swings and roundabouts" and you get what you pay for and that overall Cunard wins 52% to 48% (perhaps you need a re-run to give P&O another chance!). In your opinion is Cunard worth the extra cost over P&O?
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Like the Grills turn up to your own reserved table at the time of your choosing. Freedom dining without stress and pagers.
I do wish P&O would offer something along those lines - hopefully on Iona!
Yes so do I. It's very similar to the Princess Club Class we experienced last year on Sapphire Princess, which comes linked to suites and the best mid-ships mini-suites, the equivalent of the Superior Deluxe P&O balconies.

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Post by GillD46 » 26 May 2019, 15:13

I would have to disagree that Cunard cruise prices are more than P&O. Sometimes yes. Often no.

We looked to book a cruise a couple of years or so ago on QV in a Q6 Queen’s Grill cabin. Aurora was doing an almost identical itinerary. The lead in suite price on Aurora was £1,000 more expensive, and without the infinitely better dining that QV offered. I have noticed similar on several occasions.
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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 26 May 2019, 15:36

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I would have to disagree that Cunard cruise prices are more than P&O. Sometimes yes. Often no.

We looked to book a cruise a couple of years or so ago on QV in a Q6 Queen’s Grill cabin. Aurora was doing an almost identical itinerary. The lead in suite price on Aurora was £1,000 more expensive, and without the infinitely better dining that QV offered. I have noticed similar on several occasions.
You may be right on occasions Gill. Depends on when you book and how full the ship is. On our one trip oin QE2, booked late, we got a better cabin for less than a lower grade one simply based on fluid pricing. And I've recently seen some offers through a TA on P&O where a balcony was less than an inside.

So, with apologies for generalising but I do think that on average P&O are usually lower and Cunard officers confirms that is pretty much Carnival policy. Certainly they were for us on this occasion. Suite on Azura £1,329. Mini-suite on QV £1,994. But sure, when boolking check the specific rather than the general.

However, see conclusions coming up below, with more price comparisons.

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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 26 May 2019, 16:08

So the final scores have been counted and verified.

Roll of drums and big pause....... but you can see this coming a mile off. It's like Anne Widdecombe not winning Strictly.

If money were no object it would be Cunard Princess Grill every time. In fact if money were no object it would be Queens Grill. P&O suite sized cabin and even better grub.

But this was a special treat and money is usually a consideration. So yes, we'd look out for the deals, but generally the Grills might be out of our reach. We've been looking at some cruises ahead speculatively and we were talking nearly £10,000 for the two of us in Princess Grill on QV on one we fancied. Bearing in mind we did the Britannia Maiden for £4,000 for the two of us in a Superior Deluxe Balcony cabin, a similar space, albeit 4 years ago, that's a big difference.

We loved to be able to push the Deck 11 button in the lifts and escape the comparative crowds down below, even if I was bit self conscious sometimes putting the cruise card in the slot. I often waited till everyone else got out at Deck 10 and then did it quickly.

The Queens Room dancing is a big draw, and we loved the flexibility of dining when we want at the same table. Maybe a fall back would be Britannia Club, but that would mean a standard balcony cabin again. That's what we have on QM2 next year (not even the Club version) but we have got used to the extra space. Price wise we could usually book a suite on P&O and pay the extra to eat in Epicurean every night and still be winning. And lycra apart we do still like Azura and her sisters.

The experience made us think about Saga again and their new offering, Spirit of Discovery. Their prices have always seemed expensive to us, even when we take into account their included chauffeur service and drinks. So we thought we'd look again at them too. And then their latest offers dropped through our letter box and our jaws dropped through the floor.

14 nights Baltic later this year.

P&O Arcadia: Balcony £1,999; Suite £3,379.

Cunard Queen Victoria (same sized ship of course, same basic hull, but very different inside): Balcony £1,899 (yes, less than P&O!); Princess Grill £4,799; Queen's Grill £5,593

Spirit of Discovery: Balcony £2,999; Deluxe Balcony (not as big as a QV PG and none of the frills) £6,066; Suite £7,308

We may continue to give Saga a miss!

And of course we still have Princess Cruises Club Class to put into the mix. Not Grills standard but a step up from Club or Freedom in the MDR.

So there is it. We've loved our look at life on the other side and would love to do it again. But it will very much depend on what's around at the time. Our next trip is QM2 in 2020. Not sure what we're doing in 2021. Might be land based or grab a late bargain. 2022 will be P&O because we plan to take our daughter and grand-daughters and (a) think the P&O kids' clubs look better and (b) want to put the three of them into a Superior Deluxe sized cabin and I'm not sure the Grills are ready for a 9 and 10 year old (or indeed my wallet!

But after that, who knows? Though we do suspect we may be growing into Cunard passengers.

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Post by Stephen » 26 May 2019, 16:51

Enjoyed the review Merv. :clap: :thumbup:

When Mrs S and I met you and the lovely Trish in March we had no idea we were mingling with the super rich/upper class. If we had known I would have doffed my cap and got Mrs S trained up in curtsying ready for our meet up. :D
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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 26 May 2019, 17:40

You can do that next time Stephen. And I'm sure you'll be up for a next time because it's my round. Well Trish's.

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Post by Stephen » 26 May 2019, 18:03

I'd forgotten all about that :sarcasm: ...right, now where's the brochure.

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Post by Gill W » 26 May 2019, 18:16

Thank you for all your reports, I found them very interesting.

I have one question. What did you think of the butler in the P&O suite? The idea of having a butler has always put me off having a suite as there is nothing I can think of that I’d need him to do, and that he’d always be hanging around wanting to be given something to do. I think I’d feel a pressure in trying to find tasks for him!
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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 26 May 2019, 18:47

Ours was great. I had the same fear but David's advice that the Butler does food and the Steward does the cabin was about right. Ours wasn't obtrusive, but when we asked for Earl Grey tea bags they appeared and were topped up. When we ordered room service breakfast, unless it was very early, he delivered it and set it out on the table. We asked for ice one day because we'd saved the bottle of champagne in the cabin, having used our loyalty vouchers for a free sail away glass on day one. He delivered it, chilled the bottle and then came back and opened and served it with the canapés, which he delivered every day. Turns out he took away dirty cups etc too. He would also have sorted out speciality dining reservations for us but we'd already done it. He was able to answer questions we'd have otherwise visited reception for. He also sorted out a minor maintenance issue for us. Our fears about how to use him were unfounded.

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I have one question. What did you think of the butler in the P&O suite? The idea of having a butler has always put me off having a suite as there is nothing I can think of that I’d need him to do, and that he’d always be hanging around wanting to be given something to do. I think I’d feel a pressure in trying to find tasks for him!
Like most things - it is a learning curve.

First time we had a butler we were not sure what to do but once you realise how the system works you use them as much or as little as you want.

The key thing, as I said to Merv, is that the butler deals with food and drink and the cabin steward deals with the cabin. The butler comes in each evening with the canapés and will have a chat and quite often will give you some good tips about the next day/next port.

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Post by Jan Rosser » 26 May 2019, 19:20

Enjoyed your reports Merv - gave me an insight into something I’m highly unlikely to be able to afford unless I win the lottery. The solo traveller supplements are a killer - a balcony cabin on Britannia at Christmas was just over £4000 for just me so goodness knows what a suite would cost :crazy: I’d love to try the Cunard experience but reading about all your “extras” I think I’d be disappointed with steerage class cabins :lolno:

I once had the services of a butler although I was in an inside cabin just across from the suites - he was very attentive and I only wanted a lend of a charger - I think he thought I needed looking after :roll:
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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 26 May 2019, 19:36

I'm going to start a crowd funding page to pay for our next cruise......

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Post by GillD46 » 26 May 2019, 19:54

Great read, thank you.
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Post by Stephen » 26 May 2019, 21:20

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Thank you for all your reports, I found them very interesting.

I have one question. What did you think of the butler in the P&O suite? The idea of having a butler has always put me off having a suite as there is nothing I can think of that I’d need him to do, and that he’d always be hanging around wanting to be given something to do. I think I’d feel a pressure in trying to find tasks for him!

Same thoughts here Gill, not that I will ever see us in the etulons of a suite.

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Post by Stephen » 27 May 2019, 08:05

...or even echelon

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Re: P&O Suite v Cunard Princess Grills

Post by Manoverboard » 27 May 2019, 18:36

I enjoyed the read and remembered well our own reservations about having a Butler and what he / she was supposed to do given that we didn't really want one.

It was a ' He ' and ' He ' was well acquainted with the tasks required to please his customers. It was a 50th anniversary on Aurora for us and ' He ' instinctively knew what we wanted and delivered accordingly. He added a special touch and we appreciated it very much but are all Butlers so inspired ?

Our thoughts regarding Cunard were and still are that snobs are, or can be, attracted to this Line and sadly you wish to fall into that category … we, on the other hand, would not. Destinations rather than impressions has deffo always been the way to go for us.

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Post by david63 » 27 May 2019, 18:41

Manoverboard wrote:
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are all Butlers so inspired ?
In my experience - probably yes

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Post by Manoverboard » 27 May 2019, 18:59

david63 wrote:
27 May 2019, 18:41
Manoverboard wrote:
27 May 2019, 18:36
are all Butlers so inspired ?
In my experience - probably yes
That's nice to know. :thumbup:

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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 27 May 2019, 22:24

Manoverboard wrote:
27 May 2019, 18:36
I enjoyed the read and remembered well our own reservations about having a Butler and what he / she was supposed to do given that we didn't really want one.

It was a ' He ' and ' He ' was well acquainted with the tasks required to please his customers. It was a 50th anniversary on Aurora for us and ' He ' instinctively knew what we wanted and delivered accordingly. He added a special touch and we appreciated it very much but are all Butlers so inspired ?

Our thoughts regarding Cunard were and still are that snobs are, or can be, attracted to this Line and sadly you wish to fall into that category …
we, on the other hand, would not. Destinations rather than impressions has deffo always been the way to go for us.
My self definition of us as snobs is largely based on not wishing to be distracted from our enjoyment by over loud drunks! :sarcasm:

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Post by GillD46 » 28 May 2019, 06:22

Manoverboard wrote:
27 May 2019, 18:36

Our thoughts regarding Cunard were and still are that snobs are, or can be, attracted to this Line and sadly you wish to fall into that category … we, on the other hand, would not. Destinations rather than impressions has deffo always been the way to go for us.
Harsh words MOB.

I don’t know if you have ever tried Cunard, but particularly harsh if you haven’t. Having done about 25 + Cunard voyages, and Jo (and others) a good many more, I’d say that in my experience the snobs are few, and definitely no more than we encountered on P&O. Most are ordinary people that have just found a product they like.

We all cruise for different reasons, and get different things out of our travels. And I think we should all be allowed to enjoy whichever experiences are right for us, without fear of being thought snobs!
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Post by Manoverboard » 28 May 2019, 09:13

GillD46 wrote:
28 May 2019, 06:22
Manoverboard wrote:
27 May 2019, 18:36

Our thoughts regarding Cunard were and still are that snobs are, or can be, attracted to this Line and sadly you wish to fall into that category … we, on the other hand, would not. Destinations rather than impressions has deffo always been the way to go for us.
Harsh words MOB.

I don’t know if you have ever tried Cunard, but particularly harsh if you haven’t. Having done about 25 + Cunard voyages, and Jo (and others) a good many more, I’d say that in my experience the snobs are few, and definitely no more than we encountered on P&O. Most are ordinary people that have just found a product they like.

We all cruise for different reasons, and get different things out of our travels. And I think we should all be allowed to enjoy whichever experiences are right for us, without fear of being thought snobs!
Read my posting again, perhaps …. I did NOT say nor mean to imply that everybody who cruises with Cunard is a snob. In reality I was simply aiming to have a bit of banter with Merv. My apologies to the OP for side tracking his Topic.

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Post by GillD46 » 28 May 2019, 09:29

Ok, then I apologise too. Obviously I misread your intentions.
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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 28 May 2019, 09:51

Where are the off topic modplods when you need them?

Oh!

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Post by Stephen » 28 May 2019, 11:05

Grope group hug everyone ;)

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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 28 May 2019, 18:58

Okay but can we do it discretely in the Grills area so the unwashed riff raff don't join in please? :D :sarcasm:

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Post by Stephen » 29 May 2019, 07:25

Snob :o .........who said that :D

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Post by emjay45 » 30 May 2019, 21:48

I haven’t posted for a while but I was most interested in Merv’s thread. Mainly because it was a comparison of being in a suite on P&O and being in the Grills on Cunard. We have always had suites on P&O. We actually have had 2 world cruises in the Penthouse suite on the Aurora(our son was in the balcony cabin next door for anyone who wondered if we’d tucked him away under the bed.)😉 Last year we jumped ship to Cunard and we were in the Queen’s grill. We enjoyed everything that Merv did with the addition of a butler and a free mini bar. In our opinion there really is no comparison between having a suite on P&O and being in the Queen’s grill. Cunard for us won hands down. The food and the service in the QG restaurant was fabulous. I know it’s more expensive on Cunard but we felt we had better value for our money. Nothing to do with snobbery just better value. As for butlers we’ve had a few, and the best one we had was I believe experienced by MOB. We were fortunate to have him on our world cruise in 2013. Unfortunately they aren’t all as professional as he was and some have been dreadful. I think with P&O you pay for a bigger cabin and a butler who may or may not be particularly good. We are back on Cunard this year and I can’t see us going back to P&O.

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Post by Manoverboard » 31 May 2019, 09:14

emjay45 wrote:
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… As for butlers we’ve had a few, and the best one we had was I believe experienced by MOB. We were fortunate to have him on our world cruise in 2013. Unfortunately they aren’t all as professional as he was and some have been dreadful.
You remembered :D … we compared notes at the time I recall but I can't remember his name now :?

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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 31 May 2019, 11:39

Emjay's post kind of reinforces our conclusion that on P&O it is mainly about the very nice cabin. The Cunard package is the complete deal. You just have to judge whether, for you, it is worth the money.

I'm slightly envious of the voyages in the Aurora penthouse suite - though I doubt it would be for us. Not just way out of our money league but in the wrong place. We have to be midships ideally and definitely not way forward. The story is the designer only conceived those two suites there because they couldn't think of a better way of using the awkward shaped sloping space.

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Post by emjay45 » 31 May 2019, 21:05

Manoverboard wrote:
31 May 2019, 09:14
emjay45 wrote:
30 May 2019, 21:48
… As for butlers we’ve had a few, and the best one we had was I believe experienced by MOB. We were fortunate to have him on our world cruise in 2013. Unfortunately they aren’t all as professional as he was and some have been dreadful.
You remembered :D … we compared notes at the time I recall but I can't remember his name now :?
Hi Mob
It was Anil. Aw he was so lovely. I wish he'd been our butler on the 2015 world cruise. Sadly he'd moved on.

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