For those that like to go with the crowd
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Re: For those that like to go with the crowd
It seems to me that you dare not say
1) You actually enjoyed being on a P&O ship - I love it
2) That you are a Caribbean tier or higher with P&O - wish I was
3) that you have been in a balcony cabin or even more shocking a Suite - can't afford a suite, wish I could
4) that you have been on a Worldie - one day ??????
5) that you say you have actually tried more than one cruise line (ALL THIS IS CLASSED AS BRAGGING) - tried others but prefer P&O
Shout it from the rooftops Maritqos
1) You actually enjoyed being on a P&O ship - I love it
2) That you are a Caribbean tier or higher with P&O - wish I was
3) that you have been in a balcony cabin or even more shocking a Suite - can't afford a suite, wish I could
4) that you have been on a Worldie - one day ??????
5) that you say you have actually tried more than one cruise line (ALL THIS IS CLASSED AS BRAGGING) - tried others but prefer P&O
Shout it from the rooftops Maritqos
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LOVE it Barney, that is the kind of banter that brings a smile to my face!
What I think of when I see all the banter/sniping is the saying
THE WAY PEOPLE TREAT YOU IS A STATEMENT
OF WHO THEY ARE AS A HUMAN BEING.
IT'S NOT A STATEMENT ABOUT YOU!
What I think of when I see all the banter/sniping is the saying
THE WAY PEOPLE TREAT YOU IS A STATEMENT
OF WHO THEY ARE AS A HUMAN BEING.
IT'S NOT A STATEMENT ABOUT YOU!
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Keefy
glad to see you have not gone over to the Dark side, as they say the cream rises to the top.
I am tired of OBF et al ,begging me to become a Modplod, I am far to lenient and happy go lucky to be banning people, for simply having an opinion. Even when I know they are wrong
glad to see you have not gone over to the Dark side, as they say the cream rises to the top.
I am tired of OBF et al ,begging me to become a Modplod, I am far to lenient and happy go lucky to be banning people, for simply having an opinion. Even when I know they are wrong
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The difference between banter and your alleged sniping is that banter nearly always has an emoticon, which makes it obvious that it's a TIC comment.Maritqos wrote:
This is what I mean about rules for one and not for the other, Oldpoers response is classed as inappropriate by YOU but all the other sniping on this forum is classed as banter. From one who doesn't post on this forum very often I am afraid all your so called banter comes across as sniping at each other.
But there was no mention of banning at this point.Maritqos wrote:My reply about banning Oldpoer was directly to Manoverboard, who has threatened him with a ban before, hence the comment about banning him.
I beg to disagree. Some topics do go off at a tangent with some banter, but that's part of the fun.Maritqos wrote:It is a great pity that so many threads are now ALL about banter!
I am Scottish (born in Glasgow, lived in Whitehill Street, just off Duke Street) and haven't noticed any ScotophobiaMaritqos wrote:When I joined this forum a couple of years ago I got some really great information from the posters [\quote]
Great information is still widely available.
I haven't noticed any difference.Maritqos wrote:and all the threads back then were a pleasure to read and at that time there was still the banter between people but it was what I call real banter, funny and quick witted, not all the sniping at each other that I see now.
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6) on and lastly for all you Scotophobes that you are Scottish (by the way I have many many English friends) and even more English neighbours who we all get on well with. I think it tells you something when in our street (in Scotland by the way) that almost 70% of our neighbours are English.
Alan
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Maritqos .... you have mail, I respectfully suggest that you respond to it.Maritqos wrote:... No doubt I will be receiving a PM from MOB threatening me with a ban now.
Regards Moby(Mod)
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I see that Manoverboard has moderated my post above in RED!!!! My goodness deary deary me!
I thought that the threat of issuing him with a warning under ruling 1b.... meant it was a threat to ban him. I never did read the Rules of the Cruise Community which I suppose is remiss of me, as I really didn't intend to post all that much.
I thought that the threat of issuing him with a warning under ruling 1b.... meant it was a threat to ban him. I never did read the Rules of the Cruise Community which I suppose is remiss of me, as I really didn't intend to post all that much.
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if you don't read the rules , how can you stretch them to within an inch of breaking point? Rookie mistake Maritqos
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Re 'banter' and 'sniping'
I like a laugh as much as the next person, and I read posts on here that I find entertaining and/or amusing and informative
However, I find some of the 'laddish banter' on here to be a bit much, so I skim over those posts.
Although the people bantering with each other are clearly having the time of their lives, to other people, who may not be in the Boys Banter Club, some of the comments may appear near to the mark, if not offensive.
I think we all know people in real life, usually Jack the Lad types who reckon they can say anything they want under the guise of banter, and if anyone gets upset, they claim they were only joking ('it's only banter innit, luv')
Whilst I wouldn't want to spoil anybody's fun, sometimes I wish the banter was toned down a little - that consideration was given to all users of the board.
I also find it quite annoying when an on topic comment is completely ignored, drowned in a sea of banter.
I like a laugh as much as the next person, and I read posts on here that I find entertaining and/or amusing and informative
However, I find some of the 'laddish banter' on here to be a bit much, so I skim over those posts.
Although the people bantering with each other are clearly having the time of their lives, to other people, who may not be in the Boys Banter Club, some of the comments may appear near to the mark, if not offensive.
I think we all know people in real life, usually Jack the Lad types who reckon they can say anything they want under the guise of banter, and if anyone gets upset, they claim they were only joking ('it's only banter innit, luv')
Whilst I wouldn't want to spoil anybody's fun, sometimes I wish the banter was toned down a little - that consideration was given to all users of the board.
I also find it quite annoying when an on topic comment is completely ignored, drowned in a sea of banter.
Gill
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In fairness, Gill, most of the banter occurs when a topic is dying on its feet, when all the questions have been answered and there's nothing much more to be said. As an example this topic has gone way off line. I can think of no requests for information which nobody has answered, although some queries are so erudite the most seasoned cruisers would struggle. However they still get a response.
Most of the banter comes from those who frequent the forum most often and whilst you may find it irritating, the banter is coming from those who are basically keeping the forum going. More often than not (but not always) it is they who welcome new members, who offer advice and information and they who raise new topics for others to discuss. It is only natural they are the ones with the highest profile and it is only natural they have come to know each other well.
i understand your frustration so what to do about it? What we really need are others who are proactive and will also raise topics, ask questions, answer queries, report on their holidays etc., ie add their own contributions to the forum. The solution is in your hands.
Most of the banter comes from those who frequent the forum most often and whilst you may find it irritating, the banter is coming from those who are basically keeping the forum going. More often than not (but not always) it is they who welcome new members, who offer advice and information and they who raise new topics for others to discuss. It is only natural they are the ones with the highest profile and it is only natural they have come to know each other well.
i understand your frustration so what to do about it? What we really need are others who are proactive and will also raise topics, ask questions, answer queries, report on their holidays etc., ie add their own contributions to the forum. The solution is in your hands.
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Gill W wrote:Re 'banter' and 'sniping'
I like a laugh as much as the next person, and I read posts on here that I find entertaining and/or amusing and informative
However, I find some of the 'laddish banter' on here to be a bit much, so I skim over those posts.
Although the people bantering with each other are clearly having the time of their lives, to other people, who may not be in the Boys Banter Club, some of the comments may appear near to the mark, if not offensive.
I think we all know people in real life, usually Jack the Lad types who reckon they can say anything they want under the guise of banter, and if anyone gets upset, they claim they were only joking ('it's only banter innit, luv')
Whilst I wouldn't want to spoil anybody's fun, sometimes I wish the banter was toned down a little - that consideration was given to all users of the board.
I also find it quite annoying when an on topic comment is completely ignored, drowned in a sea of banter.
I'm inclined to agree with you Gill.
The forum seems to have gone down hill a bit lately and lost it's jovial tone in place of snide remarks. I'm not one to spread rumours you understand, but I blame DK. Wash my mouth out, who said that
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Hi OBF....l think that's a fair assessment of how things work on furoms such as ours....not that Gill doesn't have a point about what she believes is offensive banter as it has on occassions got close to that mark.
Anyhow Gill will be pleased to hear l've had words with both Stephen and Darknightie both of whom have promised to take on board Gills comments and clean up their acts considerably.
Regards
Keith
Anyhow Gill will be pleased to hear l've had words with both Stephen and Darknightie both of whom have promised to take on board Gills comments and clean up their acts considerably.
Regards
Keith
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Stephen wrote:The forum seems to have gone down hill a bit lately and lost it's jovial tone in place of snide remarks. I'm not one to spread rumours you understand, but I blame DK. Wash my mouth out, who said that
Stephen and Keith -Do you two know the meaning of incorrigible ?Onelife wrote:Hi OBF....l think that's a fair assessment of how things work on furoms such as ours....not that Gill doesn't have a point about what she believes is offensive banter as it has on occassions got close to that mark.
Anyhow Gill will be pleased to hear l've had words with both Stephen and Darknightie both of whom have promised to take on board Gills comments and clean up their acts considerably.
Regards
Keith
Maureen
PS - You still make me laugh though.
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Dear Keefy..the forum's Jiminy Cricket
I apologise wholeheartedly if my comments on this thread have offended you. I will try to be more accepting of other people's views in future and will moderate my responses accordingly, except in the case of that Essex chav, who deserves all he gets
I apologise wholeheartedly if my comments on this thread have offended you. I will try to be more accepting of other people's views in future and will moderate my responses accordingly, except in the case of that Essex chav, who deserves all he gets
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It doesn't really irritate me as such, as I just skim over the things I don't want to read. But sometimes as I skim through, I do see comments which, even though they are part of banter, sound quite off, and could upset someone taking the comment at face value.oldbluefox wrote:In fairness, Gill, most of the banter occurs when a topic is dying on its feet, when all the questions have been answered and there's nothing much more to be said. As an example this topic has gone way off line. I can think of no requests for information which nobody has answered, although some queries are so erudite the most seasoned cruisers would struggle. However they still get a response.
Most of the banter comes from those who frequent the forum most often and whilst you may find it irritating, the banter is coming from those who are basically keeping the forum going. More often than not (but not always) it is they who welcome new members, who offer advice and information and they who raise new topics for others to discuss. It is only natural they are the ones with the highest profile and it is only natural they have come to know each other well.
i understand your frustration so what to do about it? What we really need are others who are proactive and will also raise topics, ask questions, answer queries, report on their holidays etc., ie add their own contributions to the forum. The solution is in your hands.
An example has actually just appeared on the thread.
I saw this comment from DK
For a split second. I thought that was addressed to me, and I was really naffed off. But then I realised that no-one on this forum (until now!) knows that I was Essex born and bred and lived there until I was 21. Although it was banter, and nothing to do with me, I nearly thought it was a dig at me. But when I realised it was about Stephen, I thought, oh, that's all right then!I will try to be more accepting of other people's views in future and will moderate my responses accordingly, except in the case of that Essex chav,
I do contribute to this forum, I comment on threads, help people if I can, and always post my cruise reviews - if OBF hasn't noticed me doing that, then maybe I've just been lost in the banter. I'll try harder
Gill
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Unless you are a he , Gill, then its not you, you didn't copy in the end of the comment ?
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I was just illustrating how banter can be misunderstood, that's all
Gill
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I'm sure I am among those who can be accused of banter and if so accused I must plead guilty.
However, I must echo the thoughts of others. I come here quite often because I consider myself to be among friends. Selfishly I don't come because I have a crusading zeal to answer the queries of the less experienced cruising members.
However, while I am here enjoying a bit of a knockabout with my mates I do, from time to time, offer what are hopefully serious comments and responses to those seeking advice and help. I hope the latter goes someway to mitigate the former.
However, I must echo the thoughts of others. I come here quite often because I consider myself to be among friends. Selfishly I don't come because I have a crusading zeal to answer the queries of the less experienced cruising members.
However, while I am here enjoying a bit of a knockabout with my mates I do, from time to time, offer what are hopefully serious comments and responses to those seeking advice and help. I hope the latter goes someway to mitigate the former.
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From a Moderation point of view it is a very fine line.
Do we sensor all the posts that are, or contain, banter within all Topics or just those within Cruise Specific Topics ... or some other formula that we would collectively never agree on.
This was something that I reasoned for on the old P&O site -1 and yet the idea got shouted down by those who claimed that censorship is taboo. What they actually meant was " Do not allow banter in those topics that I am personally interested in but it is ok in all the others." We are all interested in different Topics however.
Gill makes a very valid point but if we enforced it the site would be bereft of posters ... as Ken used to say " Be careful what you wish for ".
Do we sensor all the posts that are, or contain, banter within all Topics or just those within Cruise Specific Topics ... or some other formula that we would collectively never agree on.
This was something that I reasoned for on the old P&O site -1 and yet the idea got shouted down by those who claimed that censorship is taboo. What they actually meant was " Do not allow banter in those topics that I am personally interested in but it is ok in all the others." We are all interested in different Topics however.
Gill makes a very valid point but if we enforced it the site would be bereft of posters ... as Ken used to say " Be careful what you wish for ".
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I'm all for people enjoying a laugh and a joke, and I wouldn't like to see heavy censorship on the forum.
But, I still think that, sometimes, some of the comments get very close to the line, and are nearer snipes than jokes, and to my mind it's not a very nice sort of banter.
I will continue to skim over things that don't interest me, so there's no need to stop on my account, but there will no doubt be people who miss the joke in the banter, and it'll all turn a bit unpleasant.
But, I still think that, sometimes, some of the comments get very close to the line, and are nearer snipes than jokes, and to my mind it's not a very nice sort of banter.
I will continue to skim over things that don't interest me, so there's no need to stop on my account, but there will no doubt be people who miss the joke in the banter, and it'll all turn a bit unpleasant.
Gill
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You do contribute to the forum Gill. Sorry if it was misunderstood but my comment was a general comment that if we want to encourage more debate rather than banter we need more people posting threads which promote that debate.Gill W wrote:I do contribute to this forum, I comment on threads, help people if I can, and always post my cruise reviews - if OBF hasn't noticed me doing that, then maybe I've just been lost in the banter. I'll try harder
Oddly enough the one area which has not attracted one post in almost 18 months is the 'Ladies that Chat' thread and the last one to post in that was me!!!
Further to what Mob says we do try to take a light touch to moderation. I tend to leave things alone just as long as no posts are deemed offensive to the recipient or offensive in their nature, and for so long as matters don't get out of hand. It is a bit of a tightrope act but, by and large, those who post on the forum appreciate the facility and work within the rules.
I would be very loathe indeed to crack down on banter as this is between people who have known each other for some time and could be considered friends. The banter exists only because they know each other and are confident no offence will be taken. When I see some of the sniping which goes on on other forums I know which I would rather have.
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I think the mods do a really good job on here - as I pointed out the other day we can all interpret the written word differently and maybe take offense when no offense is made. The travel writer made comments which I didn't agree with/like and thought maybe near to the mark but he took this onboard and apologised and we all moved on - I guess the Forum is likened to the Houses of Parliament and they all go hammer and tongs at each other sometimes.
We are all intelligent adults (well almost!) and I think the mods who monitor our ramblings need a medal (or perhaps a Knighthood?)
We are all intelligent adults (well almost!) and I think the mods who monitor our ramblings need a medal (or perhaps a Knighthood?)
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And there lies the reason why David chose you and Moby over me for the positions of moderatoroldbluefox wrote:You do contribute to the forum Gill. Sorry if it was misunderstood but my comment was a general comment that if we want to encourage more debate rather than banter we need more people posting threads which promote that debate.Gill W wrote:I do contribute to this forum, I comment on threads, help people if I can, and always post my cruise reviews - if OBF hasn't noticed me doing that, then maybe I've just been lost in the banter. I'll try harder
Oddly enough the one area which has not attracted one post in almost 18 months is the 'Ladies that Chat' thread and the last one to post in that was me!!!
Further to what Mob says we do try to take a light touch to moderation. I tend to leave things alone just as long as no posts are deemed offensive to the recipient or offensive in their nature, and for so long as matters don't get out of hand. It is a bit of a tightrope act but, by and large, those who post on the forum appreciate the facility and work within the rules.
I would be very loathe indeed to crack down on banter as this is between people who have known each other for some time and could be considered friends. The banter exists only because they know each other and are confident no offence will be taken. When I see some of the sniping which goes on on other forums I know which I would rather have.
Shame really as I love drawing with coloured pens...especially red ones
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Re: For those that like to go with the crowd
So Costa are getting 4 more ships...
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I'd completely forgotten about that!RB1961 wrote:So Costa are getting 4 more ships...
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