Fire and Hire

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Fire and Hire

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At least they have the right company this time

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67516276

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Cruise lines have always used the…No complaints, take it or leave it employment strategy when dealing with third world cruise staff.

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Onelife wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 11:13
take it or leave it employment strategy when dealing with third world cruise staff.
Although in this case they are first world staff looking at the type of members that Nautilus has.

From that report, and who knows how true it is, Carnival are wanting to change some staff from effectively working nine months on and three months off within the year to working six months on and six months off. My understanding is that staff at that level are on permanent contract so they would not lose pay but I would guess that they get an additional allowance when at sea.

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From the flurry of activity on Faceache it seems the story may not be completely accurate. Carnival have gone into denial and suing people mode.

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Hi David, I was looking at it from a general perspective as to how cruise lines treat staff…. this being said, if your appraisal of what is happening then I would say that they are introducing a fire, rehire and disposable strategy. If this working model were to be introduced it would effectively make those staff redundant and unemployable for 6 months of the year due to them not being able to meet other employment requirements both from the length of employment and the administrative elements which any employer would have to meet in hiring them.

But hey! Who cares, its time to put up the Christmas lights :thumbup: :D

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All those putting up lights and/or decorations in November need shooting.

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Stephen wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 16:49
All those putting up lights and/or decorations in November need shooting.
Phew! Our village lights up 1st Dec :thumbup: :D

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Carnival UK withdraws 'fire-and-rehire' threat https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67519626

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Stephen wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:34
Carnival UK withdraws 'fire-and-rehire' threat https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67519626
They were probably tipped off that you were sending out compo forms ;) :)

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……or it would affect sales.

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Stephen wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 13:40
……or it would affect sales.
I think you could probably count on one hand the number of potential passengers who would put workets pay above a cheaper cruise.
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towny44 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 16:05
I think you could probably count on one hand the number of potential passengers who would put workets pay above a cheaper cruise.
But have you seen the size of Stephen's hands :lol: :lol: :lol:

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david63 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 18:58
towny44 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 16:05
I think you could probably count on one hand the number of potential passengers who would put workets pay above a cheaper cruise.
But have you seen the size of Stephen's hands :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes but he still only has 5 fingers (or for the pendants 4 fingers and a thumb) on each hand.
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Or for the pedants..... no pendants!

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I know I should have tried harder at school as I ain’t gotta clue how or why pendants keeps getting mentioned… thick or what? careful John ;) :)

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Me neither. But I’ll play along

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