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[screwy]

And do you honestly believe it would be different under any other party.?

[towny44]

What I find odd about these plans or no plans arguments, along with most other arguments over the govts handling of everything, is the impact the media play in these discussions.
Those on the left claim that the Daily Mail winds up those on the right with the way it cherry picks articles to push it's right wing agenda, but they seem blind to the way the left wing biased media, such as the Guardian and quite often the BBC, portray much of govt action as inept, subject to u turns, and cronyism.
I wonder why anyone, especially those on the right, would give up well paid jobs in the city, business or the media, and subject themselves to the abuse the left wing machine throws at them.

[Manoverboard]

I wonder why anyone, especially those on the right, would give up well paid jobs in the city, business or the media, and subject themselves to the abuse the left wing machine throws at them.

It's the lure of power coupled with a dose of self obsession ... seemples

[Stephen]

Sounds like on here

[david63]

Looks as if there will some good overtime coming up for some prison officers - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58747614 - and even that is too good for him. If ever there was a case for the re-introduction of hanging he has just made it!

[Gill W]

And do you honestly believe it would be different under any other party.?

I don’t believe we’d be in such a bad state under any other government, whether Conservative, Labour or anyone else, We have a government of poor leadership and a dearth of talent.

Nothing’s ever perfect, but we have the worst possible government at the worst possible time.

Under a different government we may have had different outcomes.

[david63]

Under a different government we may have had different outcomes.

Under a different Government we would almost certainly had different outcomes, but whether those outcomes would have been better or worse will be a matter of conjecture for years to come.

[barney]

And do you honestly believe it would be different under any other party.?

I don’t believe we’d be in such a bad state under any other government, whether Conservative, Labour or anyone else, We have a government of poor leadership and a dearth of talent.

Nothing’s ever perfect, but we have the worst possible government at the worst possible time.

Under a different government we may have had different outcomes.

We voted against PR at this conference should Labour win power.
So, that's put the kybosh on that for the foreseeable future.

What I find fascinating is that so many natural Tory voters have thrown their toys out of the pram because of the way the Brexit vote went.
They forget that the Tories actually campaigned to remain but respected the democratic decision, as have Labour ..... eventually.

Personally, as you know, I'm certainly no Johnson fan.
I think that he wanted to be PM for the kudos.
He's wants to be an ex PM for the earning potential.
It's the bit in between that he's struggling with.

After watching Starmer yesterday, and obviously assuming he can keep the far left away, he will give Johnson a run for his money, come the next election.
I do however forecast, that I don't think Johnson will run again and his successor may prove more difficult.
Sunak or Truss must be favourites.
Truss has done very well at trade, overseeing all of those trade agreements that we were told would be impossible to do by the anti democrats.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I just read that ironically the fuel companies now have too many drivers. More drivers than tankers to drive. They will,, it is reported, now be made to hire the governments fleet of reserve tankers rather than the army being called upon. Supports earlier reports from various sources that there never was a shortage of fuel or drivers, just a story hyped by the Road Haulage Association so they could get cheap foreign drivers back. Looks like the government were wise to that by limiting the special visa scheme.

[david63]

More drivers than tankers to drive.

That is no more than I would expect from a well run company. By having more drivers than tankers it means that a tanker will spend less time off the road.

Not sure what the drivers hours are for tankers but I would expect at least a two, if not three, drivers to one tanker ratio.

[Mervyn and Trish]

But surely not to the extent that they don't have enough tankers to drive. And when the RHA has been claiming a driver shortage.

[screwy]

As far as i'm aware and its a long time since i was on the road and things have changed slightly.
Under EU law and we still work under EU law for drivers hours, you can only drive for 9 hours ,this can be increased to 10 twice in a 5 day week
3 x 9
2 x10
there are lots of rules regarding working hours and break times.

[towny44]

I have a feeling that in Tory circles Boris will be remembered as one of the most successful PMs we have had. He seems to arouse the same vitriolic dislike, I almost said hatred but changed my mind, in the minds of his detractors as did Margaret Thatcher, and after winning 3 general elections she is revered by the Tory faithful, unlike Tony Blair, Labour's only 3 time winner, who seems to be a pariah to large chunks of the Labour party.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I have a feeling that in Tory circles Boris will be remembered as one of the most successful PMs we have had. He seems to arouse the same vitriolic dislike, I almost said hatred but changed my mind, in the minds of his detractors as did Margaret Thatcher, and after winning 3 general she is revered by the Tory faithful, unlike Tony Blair, Labours only 3 time winner, who seems to be a pariah to large chunks of the Labour party.

Hope you have your tin hat handy...

[towny44]

I have a feeling that in Tory circles Boris will be remembered as one of the most successful PMs we have had. He seems to arouse the same vitriolic dislike, I almost said hatred but changed my mind, in the minds of his detractors as did Margaret Thatcher, and after winning 3 general she is revered by the Tory faithful, unlike Tony Blair, Labours only 3 time winner, who seems to be a pariah to large chunks of the Labour party.

Hope you have your tin hat handy...

Quite likely Merv, although I have never been intimidated by people who rant and rave, and think that by shouting louder their opponents will eventually give in.

[screwy]

Looks as if there will some good overtime coming up for some prison officers - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58747614 - and even that is too good for him. If ever there was a case for the re-introduction of hanging he has just made it!

When i left the service 5 yrs ago overtime was £17 an hour,gone up a bit now.
As some will know, i have always wanted the death penalty brought back. As for this case as Horrible as it was i have seen worse and dealt with some of the most evil people allowed to breath good air.

[Mervyn and Trish]

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[Onelife]

Looks as if there will some good overtime coming up for some prison officers - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58747614 - and even that is too good for him. If ever there was a case for the re-introduction of hanging he has just made it!

I wouldn’t think twice about ridding this piece of sh*t off the face of the earth but it would be far too easy a way out for him. I hope Screwy can assure me that his life will be hell behind bars because anything short of that is far more than he deserves.

I don’t mind saying that my eyes filled up when I read the parents victim statements…. its heartbreakingly painful to imagine what the family are going through.

[screwy]

He will be on Suicide watch for quite some time,sometimes though they put on a show of not being arsed about the sentence which can be dangerous for staff, if not careful that’s when they suddenly top themselves.
He will be moved to a ‘Lifer’ centre in a Cat A prison somewhere in the country. His life will be made He’ll by other cons because he his not only a murderer but a Rapist. Deserves everything he gets.

[Onelife]

That's reassuring Screwy ....just a thought....if l supplied the petrol could you get one of your old work colleagues to start a small fire...preferably around his genitals?

[Mervyn and Trish]

I guess being a cop also won't make his life inside any more comfortable.

[Stephen]

Send him some of your choccies Keith, adapted of course.

[Kendhni]

Looks as if there will some good overtime coming up for some prison officers - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58747614 - and even that is too good for him. If ever there was a case for the re-introduction of hanging he has just made it!

I wouldn’t think twice about ridding this piece of sh*t off the face of the earth but it would be far too easy a way out for him.

I know someone who did take the law into his own hands after the police refused to do anything ... he served 5 years and now lives on the settee in his parents house (his wife and children want nothing to do with him). On the other hand, the perpetrator got compensation and will receive elevated benefits for rest of his life (due to the injuries caused).

So all he ended up doing was costing the tax payer a fortune

[Onelife]

It sounds like his actions were out of proportion to the crime committed?

[Onelife]

Send him some of your choccies Keith, adapted of course.

Not sure they would get through the metal detector. .....keep sending the razor blades.I'll give it a go