Brexit

[Jack Staff]

SUMS IT ALL UP

Now if that was the full story we wouldn't be leaving Ray, unfortunately it's a long way from the truth. But if it makes you feel like a happy Brussels puppy, then who are we stop Juncker from ruffling your fur, Oh sorry your the wrong sex.

Juncker ruffles my fur. But he's gone in 2019. Your point?

[Ray Scully]

SUMS IT ALL UP

Now if that was the full story we wouldn't be leaving Ray, unfortunately it's a long way from the truth. But if it makes you feel like a happy Brussels puppy, then who are we stop Juncker from ruffling your fur, Oh sorry your the wrong sex.

John, I admire your loyalty to the Leave cause, misplaced as it may be

[towny44]

SUMS IT ALL UP

Now if that was the full story we wouldn't be leaving Ray, unfortunately it's a long way from the truth. But if it makes you feel like a happy Brussels puppy, then who are we stop Juncker from ruffling your fur, Oh sorry your the wrong sex.

John, I admire your loyalty to the Leave cause, misplaced as it may be

I actually wonder whether your loyalty to the EU is maybe due to some sort of hypnosis, since all the normal people I know cannot wait to be free.

[screwy]

I went to see my physio yesterday a nice lady from Belfast.She can’t understand the fuss about a hard border as there wasn’t one before we signed up in the 70’s,the only time was in the conflict when there was Border posts.

[Stephen]

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[barney]

I went to see my physio yesterday a nice lady from Belfast.She can’t understand the fuss about a hard border as there wasn’t one before we signed up in the 70’s,the only time was in the conflict when there was Border posts.

I've said from day one Screwy that the whole border issue was a red herring.
They expected us to believe that para militaries were sitting in trenches ready to take a call to arms the day after Brexit.
As we get nearer and nearer to a no deal Brexit, the biggest loser by far will be Ireland.
It will devastate their economy.

The EU have used Ireland as a negotiating tool and seem happy to hang them out to dry, should their cunning plan not work.

The question of WHO will enforce a border in Ireland has been asked many, many times in the House but has never received a reply.
Says it all really doesn't it?
The only people that could possibly build and enforce a border is the EU.
Try selling that idea to the Irish.

Extract from The Irish Times

We import almost 90 per cent of our total energy requirements, and most of it comes in through the UK.
It is a business worth about €4.6 billion each year, and difficulties in that space will almost certainly lead to higher energy costs.
They could see Irish consumers paying hundreds of euro more each year to heat and light their homes.
But that is not all: product prices would almost certainly climb if the energy cost base for Irish manufacturers were to rise.

Economists John FitzGerald and Edgar Morgenroth wrote a paper recently for the Institute of International and European Affairs (IIEA) that said that as around two-thirds of the products on our supermarket shelves are made in the UK or come through there, a no-deal Brexit could see delays impacting availability in Irish shops.
Our supermarket shelves are not likely to be stripped bare, but many popular cereals and biscuits might disappear for a period.

We import large amounts of medicines and pharmaceutical products from the UK.
The UK is one of the largest pharmaceutical suppliers in the world.
In a post-Brexit world, the UK will leave the EU pharmaceutical regulation regime so new regulatory arrangements will be needed for UK goods sold here.
There is some comfort to be drawn from the fact that the industry has been working with the Government and with regulators here and there and all sides are confident there will be no shortage of vital medicines.
We live in hope.

[oldbluefox]

The Irish border issue would be solved overnight if the Irish came out of the EU. Just saying.......

[barney]

The Irish border issue would be solved overnight if the Irish came out of the EU. Just saying.......

Up to now, the Irish have been massive beneficiaries of being in the EU, and I mean massive.
The 'CelticTiger' boom was mainly financed by EU funding which sparked a housing boom, which in turn helped cause the financial crisis of which the UK taxpayer basically bailed them out.
Short memories !

This situation is slowly changing and Ireland has recently changed from a supplicant country to a contributing country, albeit in a very small way.
Over time, this may erode Ireland's great love of all things EU.
It's easy to love when it's all take, isn't it?

None of this changes the simple fact that the only people who can and will put a hard border on the island of Ireland are the EU, whether the Irish like it or not.

Talking of short memories, it seems that the Latvian government are appealing to their 'British Friends' to help solve a Russian propaganda issue in their own country.
It appears that the Russian broadcasting companies are licensed by Ofcom in the UK and Lativa want the UK to withdraw their licences.
Where were these friends when needed in Brussels?
Who will be their friends if Russian decide to raise the stakes?
Italy ? doubt it?
Germany?- no way, they rely of Russia for gas.
France? - too busy supressing their own citizens.

It will be the USA and Great Britain, as always.

As a fact, 80% of the budget spent on defending Europe will come from non EU countries after March.

[Ray Scully]

Now if that was the full story we wouldn't be leaving Ray, unfortunately it's a long way from the truth. But if it makes you feel like a happy Brussels puppy, then who are we stop Juncker from ruffling your fur, Oh sorry your the wrong sex.

John, I admire your loyalty to the Leave cause, misplaced as it may be

I actually wonder whether your loyalty to the EU is maybe due to some sort of hypnosis, since all the normal people I know cannot wait to be free.

normal people ??

[screwy]

He means Democrats...

[barney]

John, I admire your loyalty to the Leave cause, misplaced as it may be

I actually wonder whether your loyalty to the EU is maybe due to some sort of hypnosis, since all the normal people I know cannot wait to be free.

normal people ??

Oh, come on Ray !
You know you're not normal.
I know you're not normal.
Foxy knows you're not normal.

I'd go as far as to say extraordinary

[Jack Staff]

Talking of short memories, it seems that the Latvian government are appealing to their 'British Friends' to help solve a Russian propaganda issue in their own country.
...
It will be the USA and Great Britain, as always.

As a fact, 80% of the budget spent on defending Europe will come from non EU countries after March.

I rather like the idea of the fighting taking place in Latvia, much better than say Kent.

Even if the EU did not exist, we are still in Europe.

[barney]

Talking of short memories, it seems that the Latvian government are appealing to their 'British Friends' to help solve a Russian propaganda issue in their own country.
...
It will be the USA and Great Britain, as always.

As a fact, 80% of the budget spent on defending Europe will come from non EU countries after March.

I rather like the idea of the fighting taking place in Latvia, much better than say Kent.

Even if the EU did not exist, we are still in Europe.

Many Europhiles confuse the political institution EU with Europe generally Jack.
Glad to see that you are one of the more educated

[Jack Staff]

Only Jeremy Corbyn could turn our mess in to his mess and unite the Conservatives.
{Anna Soubry MP}

[Gill W]

Theresa May said on many occasions this afternoon that negotiations were ongoing and implied that there was further movment on the Backstop to come. She then gave a date on which the vote would take place......so what did Corbyn do.......He puts in a motion of no confidence in the Prime minster because he wanted the vote to take place before Christmas.

Corbyn is full of Sh*t....If he really believed his party had a better plan then he would have put forward a motion of no confidence in the Government...He hasn't got a plan and he ain't got a clue..

Well yes, Corbyn is full of sh*t, but, so is May. As you say she's giving the impression that the negotiations are ongoing, but that's just not true.

For example, from Peter Foster, Europe editor of Daily Telegraph. (@pmdfoster)

'For the avoidance of doubt, trusted EU contact says there are no #Brexit talks going on at the moment. Back-channel or otherwise. There are no new "assurances" in the pipes. Mrs May can try and wear down EU resolve over Christmas, but she shouldn't bet on it.'

That's only one quotation, I've seen this message from other sources as well.

I know it won't shake your faith in May....... but it's best to be aware of what's really happening.

Incidently, I think it's outrageous that's she's delayed the meaningful vote for 5 weeks. Obviously a ploy to run the clock down, to frighten MP's into voting for her deal.

[david63]

I think it's outrageous that's she's delayed the meaningful vote for 5 weeks. Obviously a ploy to run the clock down, to frighten MP's into voting for her deal.

That's why it is called politics!!

[Gill W]

This is too important to be playing political games.

[Mervyn and Trish]

This is too important to be playing political games.

Tell that to Corbyn and all the other MPs who are acting on their own behalf rather than their constituents wishes.

[Jack Staff]

This is too important to be playing political games.

Tell that to Corbyn and all the other MPs who are acting on their own behalf rather than their constituents wishes.

I didn't see this on the side of the bus.
"3,500 service personnel held at readiness" to support any government department on any "contingencies",

But Brexiters knew what they were voting for.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-46607230

[Onelife]

Hi Gill... it's clear what is happening.....We have on the table a deal (albeit with a few chunky bits that need swallowing) that gives those who voted leave much of what they voted for...We have, floating around the chambers those who didn't get what they voted for who are now hellbent on bringing our country to its knees. 


Everything that has happened since the referendum is a result of the remainers not accepting the democratic vote of the people. Remainers have given a platform for self indulgent parties to promote their own indervidual needs whilst disregarding what is best for the UK as a whole. The mere fact that six or seven options are being heralded as the best solution to Brexit goes to prove that there is no real consensus for any of them (WTO being the exception should a transition period be granted)


Keith

[Jack Staff]

Everything that has happened since the referendum is a result of the remainers not accepting the democratic vote of the people.

Nothing at all to do with Jacob Rees-Moog, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, David Davis, Nigel Farage....

The democratic vote of the people is not deliverable. They were lied to. There is no 'Brexit dividend'.

[Onelife]

This is too important to be playing political games.

Tell that to Corbyn and all the other MPs who are acting on their own behalf rather than their constituents wishes.

I didn't see this on the side of the bus.
"3,500 service personnel held at readiness" to support any government department on any "contingencies",

But Brexiters knew what they were voting for.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-46607230

Hi Jack,

It always brings a smile to my face when remainers use the old bus slogan as a way of trying to prop up their brexit lie theory.

When l read the slogan l didn't for one minute think it was saying "We will" give the NHS 350 million a week....It actually said "let's give" the NHS 350 million a week...l took that to mean we could 'amongst other things' spend the money on the NHS.....l think one would have to have been pretty nieve to think otherwise.

What is for sure you would have struggled to get all the remain camp lies on the side of their bus....

300 million Job loses
Businesses leaving for foreign lands
Brexit recession
World war 3 (white head stones)
Tax increases
Etc...

[Jack Staff]

..and Jack replied..
What is for sure you would have struggled to get all the remain camp lies on the side of their bus....

300 million Job loses Ok, 300m might be a tad exaggerated, but they are happening, check your local press. Not the MSM
Businesses leaving for foreign lands They are
Brexit recession Won't be long now
World war 3 (white head stones) That was Boris Johnson
Tax increases Happening now
Etc...

[Gill W]

This is too important to be playing political games.

Tell that to Corbyn and all the other MPs who are acting on their own behalf rather than their constituents wishes.

I include Corbyn as well, and many others.

They should all be acting IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE COUNTRY

[Gill W]

Hi Gill... it's clear what is happening.....We have on the table a deal (albeit with a few chunky bits that need swallowing) that gives those who voted leave much of what they voted for...We have, floating around the chambers those who didn't get what they voted for who are now hellbent on bringing our country to its knees. 


Everything that has happened since the referendum is a result of the remainers not accepting the democratic vote of the people. Remainers have given a platform for self indulgent parties to promote their own indervidual needs whilst disregarding what is best for the UK as a whole. The mere fact that six or seven options are being heralded as the best solution to Brexit goes to prove that there is no real consensus for any of them (WTO being the exception should a transition period be granted)


Keith

If I was given a pound every time someone on this forum said ‘it’s the fault of Remainers’ I’d be rich by now