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Current Affairs
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oldbluefox
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But there are beans for you in your local store. It's just they haven't grown as quickly as we expected them to and you are better at growing them than we are.
I was taught to be cautious
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screwy
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Everyone saying that wee Jimmy krankie has done an excellent job with the virus....
If she got her way and was out of the Union and back in the Eu, she wouldn’t have many vaccines.?
If she got her way and was out of the Union and back in the Eu, she wouldn’t have many vaccines.?
Mel
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towny44
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And I think I understood that because AZ diverted 5 mill vaccines from european production to keep the UK supplied while the UK plant had problems and the UK had already approved the vaccine and it was being rolled out, so now the UK plant should cover the 75 million shortfall in European production, even though the EU have not approved the AZ vaccine.
Clearly that must seem a very fair arrangement to the EU bureaucrats.

Clearly that must seem a very fair arrangement to the EU bureaucrats.
John
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Mervyn and Trish
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Of course she did a winderful job. Spending money from the UK exchequer. I presume she's ready to take her share of the debt if she gets independence.screwy wrote: 28 Jan 2021, 15:07Everyone saying that wee Jimmy krankie has done an excellent job with the virus....
If she got her way and was out of the Union and back in the Eu, she wouldn’t have many vaccines.?
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Happydays
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We have never said that at any timescrewy wrote: 28 Jan 2021, 15:07Everyone saying that wee Jimmy krankie has done an excellent job with the virus....
If she got her way and was out of the Union and back in the Eu, she wouldn’t have many vaccines.?
If the media would please ignore her self-righteousness attitude the SNP have been incompetent regarding most things but for some reason she seems to be the best "flavour of the month"
As you can tell I'm not a fan
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Manoverboard
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Due to forward planning Mobietta and I have an adequate stock of beans 
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towny44
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Do the polls lie then?Happydays wrote: 28 Jan 2021, 15:55We have never said that at any timescrewy wrote: 28 Jan 2021, 15:07Everyone saying that wee Jimmy krankie has done an excellent job with the virus....
If she got her way and was out of the Union and back in the Eu, she wouldn’t have many vaccines.?![]()
If the media would please ignore her self-righteousness attitude the SNP have been incompetent regarding most things but for some reason she seems to be the best "flavour of the month"
As you can tell I'm not a fan![]()
John
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Ray B
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If it gets to making a decision, will they really want to leave. We will find out when push comes to shove
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Mervyn and Trish
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A pro-EU and anti-Brexit friend of mine on FB is actually trying to suggest that in some way the EU's complete balls up on vaccines is in fact our fault!
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towny44
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That will take some explaining, even for a dopey remainer.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 28 Jan 2021, 18:09A pro-EU and anti-Brexit friend of mine on FB is actually trying to suggest that in some way the EU's complete balls up on vaccines is in fact our fault!
John
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Happydays
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Towny, the last time if you believed the polls it was going to be a walk over for independence. There was a lot nasty comments bring made to you if you admitted to wanting to remain part of the UK so many people just let them rant and voted on the day. It was a big shock to the SNP and to this day they have found it difficult to accept.
As for Brexit and voting to remain part of the EU, they were encouraged to vote for remain so that could use it to demand another referendum goodness knows what would have been used as an excuse if remain had won but something else would have been used for sure.
As for Brexit and voting to remain part of the EU, they were encouraged to vote for remain so that could use it to demand another referendum goodness knows what would have been used as an excuse if remain had won but something else would have been used for sure.
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towny44
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Happy Days, I do hope that any new poll follows the same path as last time. Much as I really do dislike the SNP politicians, especially Blackford, I would really like the UK to remain United, although if there were a genuine majority for leaving then as a Brexit leaver I guess I would have to accept the verdict.
John
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barney
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Like most issues, I think it best to leave it to the people involved.
I’m a firm believer in democracy so the Scots should be allowed another vote as the situation has fundamentally changed since the last one.
I expect that like most English, I’d prefer the Scots to remain as part of the U.K. but wouldn’t be overly concerned if they chose by majority to leave.
The Union is only in place because of a quirk of birth and that Elizabeth 1 didn’t have a natural heir.
I’d even be happy for the U.K. government to remain neutral in the discussion and simply point out what would change then leave the Scots to argue it out.
There are quite a few fundamental issues that would need to be addressed.
A big one would be will Scotland take a portion of the national debt I.E. a leaving fee.
Then there is the currency issue, the pension issue and the security issue and quite a few more.
I’m assuming that the Nationalists have answers for all of these before any vote takes place.
I’m a firm believer in democracy so the Scots should be allowed another vote as the situation has fundamentally changed since the last one.
I expect that like most English, I’d prefer the Scots to remain as part of the U.K. but wouldn’t be overly concerned if they chose by majority to leave.
The Union is only in place because of a quirk of birth and that Elizabeth 1 didn’t have a natural heir.
I’d even be happy for the U.K. government to remain neutral in the discussion and simply point out what would change then leave the Scots to argue it out.
There are quite a few fundamental issues that would need to be addressed.
A big one would be will Scotland take a portion of the national debt I.E. a leaving fee.
Then there is the currency issue, the pension issue and the security issue and quite a few more.
I’m assuming that the Nationalists have answers for all of these before any vote takes place.
Free and Accepted
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Stephen
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Ray B
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Time to invite builders to submit interest to build the wall, well rebuild it, as the footings are already there.
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david63
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Have I overlooked something?
The EU have a problem with deliveries of the AZ vaccine that was developed in the UK and is produced in Belgium and are blaming everyone. There is a temporary reduction in supplies of the Pfizer vaccine, also produced in Belgium but developed in Germany, but there is no mention of legal action against Pfizer.
The EU have a problem with deliveries of the AZ vaccine that was developed in the UK and is produced in Belgium and are blaming everyone. There is a temporary reduction in supplies of the Pfizer vaccine, also produced in Belgium but developed in Germany, but there is no mention of legal action against Pfizer.
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Mervyn and Trish
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Nothing. This is the EU we're talking about and a majority in the UK will not be in the least bit surprised.david63 wrote: 29 Jan 2021, 10:50Have I overlooked something?
The EU have a problem with deliveries of the AZ vaccine that was developed in the UK and is produced in Belgium and are blaming everyone. There is a temporary reduction in supplies of the Pfizer vaccine, also produced in Belgium but developed in Germany, but there is no mention of legal action against Pfizer.
Anybody else pleased we didn't sign up to the EU scheme when we had the chance to do so?
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Mervyn and Trish
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One of life's great mysteries.
I personally know at least half a dozen people who've had Covid, including four in our street which only has 17 houses, and four of them young people, two of whom were (thankfully briefly) hospitalised.
I also know of at least half a dozen friends of friends who've died of it, one a previously healthy young man. And another who narrowly escaped it after being in an induced coma for a while.
I guess similar grim statistics apply to most of us.
So do those who think the virus is a hoax not have any friends or acquaintances? How do they remain in denial?
I personally know at least half a dozen people who've had Covid, including four in our street which only has 17 houses, and four of them young people, two of whom were (thankfully briefly) hospitalised.
I also know of at least half a dozen friends of friends who've died of it, one a previously healthy young man. And another who narrowly escaped it after being in an induced coma for a while.
I guess similar grim statistics apply to most of us.
So do those who think the virus is a hoax not have any friends or acquaintances? How do they remain in denial?
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Stephen
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jan 2021, 12:04One of life's great mysteries.
I personally know at least half a dozen people who've had Covid, including four in our street which only has 17 houses, and four of them young people, two of whom were (thankfully briefly) hospitalised.
I also know of at least half a dozen friends of friends who've died of it, one a previously healthy young man. And another who narrowly escaped it after being in an induced coma for a while.
I guess similar grim statistics apply to most of us.
So do those who think the virus is a hoax not have any friends or acquaintances? How do they remain in denial?
Perhaps they're Egyptian
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oldbluefox
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It wouldn't be anything to do with who holds the reins in the EU would it?david63 wrote: 29 Jan 2021, 10:50Have I overlooked something?
The EU have a problem with deliveries of the AZ vaccine that was developed in the UK and is produced in Belgium and are blaming everyone. There is a temporary reduction in supplies of the Pfizer vaccine, also produced in Belgium but developed in Germany, but there is no mention of legal action against Pfizer.
I also see there is a problem wit Germany buying its own vaccine for its own citizens in breach of EU agreements.
https://euobserver.com/coronavirus/150554
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Mervyn and Trish
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To add to the EU vaccine shambles it seems they are still negotiating to buy the Novavax vaccine jabs that the UK bought five months ago, the latest one to show good results, including against the new variants. And produced in the UK.
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screwy
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So if the Eu take legal action against AZ and or the UK, presumably this would be in the ECJ.? Considering the Uk is not under the ECJ anymore is there really anything they can do ?
I’m sure someone will put me right.
I’m sure someone will put me right.
Mel
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Mervyn and Trish
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Maybe we should say you can have some of our jabs if you stop making it so difficult for us to export fish?
We could just send them in the same truck!
We could just send them in the same truck!
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Manoverboard
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I spoke to a lady chum earlier this week who told me about a 60 something with exactly that view ... " Do you not watch the news " she asked and was told “ No because that is just Government propaganda “ Meanwhile he continues to live his life with like minded souls and even still goes to Church whenever he canMervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jan 2021, 12:04So do those who think the virus is a hoax not have any friends or acquaintances? How do they remain in denial?
Keep smiling, it's good for your well being
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towny44
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We have had the odd one or two friends or relatives who have had covid, but only my wife's niece was I'll with it so perhaps we would be most likely to say it's only like mild flu and not serious at all. However I do believe the experts, and even the TV news, and accept it can be serious for very many, and was only too happy to have our jabs this last Monday. I dont understand how anyone could still be in denial, and I hope that the vaccination uptake remains high, hopefully with waverers eventually deciding to get their jabs.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jan 2021, 12:04One of life's great mysteries.
I personally know at least half a dozen people who've had Covid, including four in our street which only has 17 houses, and four of them young people, two of whom were (thankfully briefly) hospitalised.
I also know of at least half a dozen friends of friends who've died of it, one a previously healthy young man. And another who narrowly escaped it after being in an induced coma for a while.
I guess similar grim statistics apply to most of us.
So do those who think the virus is a hoax not have any friends or acquaintances? How do they remain in denial?
John
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