Brexit

[towny44]

Time will tell who is closer to the truth. In the meantime, you people carry on clinging to your Brexit faith. If it goes hideously wrong, don’t forget the part you played in it.

The part I played was having just the one vote, same as you …. everything else is pure speculation as none of us has any actual control of, or over, the events.

ps … I am still entirely happy about the way I voted and will have no regrets upon our exit .

Good for you and everybody who is running towards the cliff. You lot voted for it, and despite everything that's suggesting that it's not going to be good for the country, none of you even pause to think if its such a great idea after all. That's your part in it. If it goes pear shaped, I won't expect to hear ANY moaning from the Brexit supporting majority on this forum. After all it's what you want, whatever the cost

Amy moaning from me, in the event of no deal, will be directed at the EU negotiation team for not having the wit or wisdom to agree a sensible deal to ensure both parties could be winners.

[Gill W]

Link about 'special deal'
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... reen-light

If you don't like The Guardian, here's Bloomberg on the same subject

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rly-brexit

Looks as if comments about a deal may have been 'over interpreted', as Bloomberg put it, and EU still preparing for the possibility of a disorderly Brexit

[Gill W]

Time will tell who is closer to the truth. In the meantime, you people carry on clinging to your Brexit faith. If it goes hideously wrong, don’t forget the part you played in it.

The part I played was having just the one vote, same as you …. everything else is pure speculation as none of us has any actual control of, or over, the events.

ps … I am still entirely happy about the way I voted and will have no regrets upon our exit .

Good for you and everybody who is running towards the cliff. You lot voted for it, and despite everything that's suggesting that it's not going to be good for the country, none of you even pause to think if its such a great idea after all. That's your part in it. If it goes pear shaped, I won't expect to hear ANY moaning from the Brexit supporting majority on this forum. After all it's what you want, whatever the cost

Amy moaning from me, in the event of no deal, will be directed at the EU negotiation team for not having the wit or wisdom to agree a sensible deal to ensure both parties could be winners.

We already know the UK govt negotiation team lack wit and wisdom, so there won't be any point in Brexiters complaining about them after the event, should be complaining and questioning them now. Whatever the outcome, no doubt it'll be standard Brexiter practice to complain about the EU.

[johnds]

Time will tell who is closer to the truth. In the meantime, you people carry on clinging to your Brexit faith. If it goes hideously wrong, don’t forget the part you played in it.

The part I played was having just the one vote, same as you …. everything else is pure speculation as none of us has any actual control of, or over, the events.

ps … I am still entirely happy about the way I voted and will have no regrets upon our exit .

Good for you and everybody who is running towards the cliff. You lot voted for it, and despite everything that's suggesting that it's not going to be good for the country, none of you even pause to think if its such a great idea after all. That's your part in it. If it goes pear shaped, I won't expect to hear ANY moaning from the Brexit supporting majority on this forum. After all it's what you want, whatever the cost

First "you people" and now "You lot"

I thought we were trying to keep this polite

[screwy]

And IF and it could be an if everything turns out ok after we leave, i expect the remainers on here to to say, yeah, you were right. Bet you dont tho.

[barney]

And IF and it could be an if everything turns out ok after we leave, i expect the remainers on here to to say, yeah, you were right. Bet you dont tho.

That is because whatever happens in the future, it will be down to Brexit


Whatever happens bad will be because of Brexit
Whatever happens good will be in spite of Brexit

The good news is that there is an election in 2022.
Everyone will have a chance to have a vote.

[Gill W]

And IF and it could be an if everything turns out ok after we leave, i expect the remainers on here to to say, yeah, you were right. Bet you dont tho.

I've already said I WANT to be wrong about this. I don't want stockpiled medicines, portaloos on the M20, job losses, prices increases in the shops and disruption to daily life. I will be delighted to be wrong.

[Gill W]

Time will tell who is closer to the truth. In the meantime, you people carry on clinging to your Brexit faith. If it goes hideously wrong, don’t forget the part you played in it.

The part I played was having just the one vote, same as you …. everything else is pure speculation as none of us has any actual control of, or over, the events.

ps … I am still entirely happy about the way I voted and will have no regrets upon our exit .

Good for you and everybody who is running towards the cliff. You lot voted for it, and despite everything that's suggesting that it's not going to be good for the country, none of you even pause to think if its such a great idea after all. That's your part in it. If it goes pear shaped, I won't expect to hear ANY moaning from the Brexit supporting majority on this forum. After all it's what you want, whatever the cost

First "you people" and now "You lot"

I thought we were trying to keep this polite

John, I saw the term 'Remoaner' on here once too often. I got fed up with being the one making the effort not to say anything inflammatory, and as a result my posting style may be more blunt.

[Onelife]

I don't mind what term Gill uses to address us Brexiteers, Gill along with Jack and Princess are keeping this thread going

[towny44]

I don't mind what term Gill uses to address us Brexiteers, Gill along with Jack and Princess are keeping this thread going

Problem is Keith she calls us Brexiters, which doesn't have the same swashbuckling feel to it as Brexiteers.

[Onelife]

I don't mind what term Gill uses to address us Brexiteers, Gill along with Jack and Princess are keeping this thread going

Problem is Keith she calls us Brexiters, which doesn't have the same swashbuckling feel to it as Brexiteers.

l cant say l noticed that towny. ...perhaps Gill would consider calling us "musketeers" "All for one, and one for all

[Gill W]

I think of you all as Brextremists.

[Manoverboard]

Time will tell who is closer to the truth. In the meantime, you people carry on clinging to your Brexit faith. If it goes hideously wrong, don’t forget the part you played in it.

The part I played was having just the one vote, same as you …. everything else is pure speculation as none of us has any actual control of, or over, the events.

ps … I am still entirely happy about the way I voted and will have no regrets upon our exit .

Good for you and everybody who is running towards the cliff. You lot voted for it, and despite everything that's suggesting that it's not going to be good for the country, none of you even pause to think if its such a great idea after all. That's your part in it. If it goes pear shaped, I won't expect to hear ANY moaning from the Brexit supporting majority on this forum. After all it's what you want, whatever the cost

Like it's all my fault, I will happily settle for 1 / 17,000,000th of the credit

I hoped for more but will happily settle for less … the short term difficulties are less important to me than being shackled by the aspirations of an unelected Federal Europe.

[barney]

I've written to my local MP asking him to ask a question to the PM in the House.

Q. What is happening to the billions in assets that the UK has contributed into the EU coffers, including the millions we have lodged in the ECB?
Can we charge rent for our portions of the buildings?
Can we have our share of the EU wine store?
Can we off set it against the 40 billion bribe money?

I'll let you know if I get a reply.

[barney]

I think of you all as Brextremists.

Cheers Gill
That's probably a good description

Funnily enough, I was almost sitting on the fence before the campaign started, then I began doing a lot of research to find out as much as I could about how the EU operates.
I was off at the time following a knee replacement, so had plenty of time on my hands.
After finding out what was really going on, I decided to vote to leave and have no regrets about my decision.
Like most, I'm dismayed at the handling of it all, but that's another story.
As soon as the Tories elected a remainer to lead the party, the game was pretty much up and I expected a fudge.

[Onelife]

Well she (Theresa May) is still up there walking that political tightrope even though there are several who would like to see her take a fall. Thankfully she is still up there leading from the front.

We are not party to the goings on in the chambers of Westminster, neither are we party to EU negotiations, we can only speculate on what we think should be happening, at the end of the day it is she who is in there fighting our corner...she has shown great strength of character in what must be unbelievable stressful position

I respect Barney & Co's opinions of Theresa May but l am confident she will bring home the best deal she can for our country, perhaps not the deal Brexiteers want but hopfully something that allows us to work towards our ultimate Brexit goal.

[Ray Scully]

I am no longer getting notification of new post.Is this an attempt to silence we Remainers?

[Jack Staff]

Well she (Theresa May) is still up there walking that political tightrope even though there are several who would like to see her take a fall. Thankfully she is still up there leading from the front.

I'm never gonna dance again. Guilty feet have got no rhythm.

We are not party to the goings on in the chambers of Westminster, neither are we party to EU negotiations, we can only speculate on what we think should be happening, at the end of the day it is she who is in there fighting our corner...she has shown great strength of character in what must be unbelievable stressful position

All the EU stuff is on the internet. Open to everyone. None of this "giving away our negotiating position" baloney. It is her (and her Ministers) that have engineered this "unbelievable stressful position".

I respect Barney & Co's opinions of Theresa May but l am confident she will bring home the best deal she can for our country, perhaps not the deal Brexiteers want but hopfully something that allows us to work towards our ultimate Brexit goal.

It does surprise (and concern!) me how often I agree with Barney, though from different directions, obviously.
Yet to hear of a way May can get to the ultimate Brexit goal without the break up of our country. Somehow this is acceptable to some more ardent Brexiters. I hope there are still enough adults left in Parliament to stop that, but we do seem to be heading to 'vassal state', a situation no one wants and will only lead to even more disruption and depletion of the 'Great'.

[oldbluefox]

On the other hand you have Nicola Sturgeon and her SNP party who agitates for the break up of the Union but is an ardent Remainer.

[Jack Staff]

On the other hand you have Nicola Sturgeon and her SDP party who agitates for the break up of the Union but is an ardent Remainer.

There prime concern is to remain in the EU, why Scotland voted to 'stay' last time.
Once we lose NI, to obtain Brexit, we won't see Scotland for dust.

[oldbluefox]

With or without Brexit she wants independence for Scotland.

[towny44]

On the other hand you have Nicola Sturgeon and her SDP party who agitates for the break up of the Union but is an ardent Remainer.

There prime concern is to remain in the EU, why Scotland voted to 'stay' last time.
Once we lose NI, to obtain Brexit, we won't see Scotland for dust.

I am reasonably certain that the DUP would never willingly leave the Union, they will not be happy if there is a "hard border" between NI and the ROI, but I suspect if that is the only way for brexit to work, they will accept it in the end, although they might try to exploit further concessions out of TM by threatening not to support the Govt., and even NS will find it hard to conjure up a leave vote with Scottish finances in such a parlous state.

[Jack Staff]

With or without Brexit she wants independence for Scotland.

Well yes, obviously.
I suspect that is why she has been so quiet recently. She actually wants the UK to leave the EU.
She knows that remain voting Scotland will then happily vote to leave the UK. (Which of course means the United Kingdom is consigned to history).

[Onelife]

Well she (Theresa May) is still up there walking that political tightrope even though there are several who would like to see her take a fall. Thankfully she is still up there leading from the front.

I'm never gonna dance again. Guilty feet have got no rhythm.

We are not party to the goings on in the chambers of Westminster, neither are we party to EU negotiations, we can only speculate on what we think should be happening, at the end of the day it is she who is in there fighting our corner...she has shown great strength of character in what must be unbelievable stressful position

All the EU stuff is on the internet. Open to everyone. None of this "giving away our negotiating position" baloney. It is her (and her Ministers) that have engineered this "unbelievable stressful position".

I respect Barney & Co's opinions of Theresa May but l am confident she will bring home the best deal she can for our country, perhaps not the deal Brexiteers want but hopfully something that allows us to work towards our ultimate Brexit goal.

It does surprise (and concern!) me how often I agree with Barney, though from different directions, obviously.
Yet to hear of a way May can get to the ultimate Brexit goal without the break up of our country. Somehow this is acceptable to some more ardent Brexiters. I hope there are still enough adults left in Parliament to stop that, but we do seem to be heading to 'vassal state', a situation no one wants and will only lead to even more disruption and depletion of the 'Great'.

Hi Jack,

The only thing Theresa is guilty of is trying to further our trading options

I loved her dance moves.....they certainly brought a smile to my face.

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"All the EU stuff is on the internet"

Posted on the Internet by bias media...and seized upon by those who won't accept the democratic will of the people

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How's the "peoples vote" going Jack?

[Jack Staff]

I am reasonably certain that the DUP would never willingly leave the Union, they will not be happy if there is a "hard border" between NI and the ROI, but I suspect if that is the only way for brexit to work,

There is no suspicion about that. It's fact.

they will accept it in the end, although they might try to exploit further concessions out of TM by threatening not to support the Govt.,

They have already had £1 billion and if they don't support the government Brexit is dead. How much more will they demand to keep your dream alive?

and even NS will find it hard to conjure up a leave vote with Scottish finances in such a parlous state.

No problem, as you keep telling us the EU is in the business of supporting failed states (with our money) so they will be fine (even without our money).