Oh yes we can "Should we give a tip in addition to the included tip"towny44 wrote: 24 Oct 2018, 18:19We can't even have an argument about tipping now that P&O have abolished it.
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Brexit
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david63
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Re: Brexit
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
I suppose those who can have an argument in an empty room will manage that.
John
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Brexit
Then there's the drinks package. Should it be all inclusive?
Does Boris have a view? Or M. Barnier?
(Just to avoid going too far off topic!)
Does Boris have a view? Or M. Barnier?
(Just to avoid going too far off topic!)
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barney
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Re: Brexit
For those who didn't think it was all about the money, read below
https://www.politico.eu/article/swedish ... l-cost-uk/
They clearly want to wring the last penny out of the UK Cash Cow!
They have no pride and no class.
https://www.politico.eu/article/swedish ... l-cost-uk/
They clearly want to wring the last penny out of the UK Cash Cow!
They have no pride and no class.
Free and Accepted
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Ray Scully
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Re: Brexit
Barney, That remark could equally apply to the Carnival approach since taking over P&Obarney wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 15:42For those who didn't think it was all about the money, read below
https://www.politico.eu/article/swedish ... l-cost-uk/
They clearly want to wring the last penny out of the UK Cash Cow!
They have no pride and no class.
There!! back to cruising
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barney
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Re: Brexit
That's true Ray, but I can't recall Carnival calling for a European Army, standardisation of taxes and monetary union.
https://global.handelsblatt.com/opinion ... ies-975335
That is the way the EU is going, whether you like it or not.
Then of course we have the resident agitators trying to throw a spanner in the works.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 99116.html
What a helpful chap he is. I'm sure that Mr. Barnier loves stuff like that.
https://global.handelsblatt.com/opinion ... ies-975335
That is the way the EU is going, whether you like it or not.
Then of course we have the resident agitators trying to throw a spanner in the works.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 99116.html
What a helpful chap he is. I'm sure that Mr. Barnier loves stuff like that.
Free and Accepted
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Ray Scully
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Re: Brexit
Barney “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorns have roses.”barney wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 16:03That's true Ray, but I can't recall Carnival calling for a European Army, standardisation of taxes and monetary union.
https://global.handelsblatt.com/opinion ... ies-975335
That is the way the EU is going, whether you like it or not.
Then of course we have the resident agitators trying to throw a spanner in the works.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 99116.html
What a helpful chap he is. I'm sure that Mr. Barnier loves stuff like that.
― Alphonse Karr
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oldbluefox
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Re: Brexit
But is this what Remainers voted for? I presume that is what they want and what they were marching for at the weekend, until they got sore feet!!barney wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 16:03That's true Ray, but I can't recall Carnival calling for a European Army, standardisation of taxes and monetary union.
I was taught to be cautious
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Ray Scully
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Re: Brexit
and was the whole event sponsored by Clarks shoesoldbluefox wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 17:57But is this what Remainers voted for? I presume that is what they want and what they were marching for at the weekend, until they got sore feet!!barney wrote: 25 Oct 2018, 16:03That's true Ray, but I can't recall Carnival calling for a European Army, standardisation of taxes and monetary union.![]()
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oldbluefox
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
If only someone had said something like this might happen....
"Argentina will exploit a no-deal Brexit to 'enhance' its claims to Falklands, says its foreign minister"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... ds-claims/
"Argentina will exploit a no-deal Brexit to 'enhance' its claims to Falklands, says its foreign minister"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... ds-claims/
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Brexit
They last tried it long before Brexit. I don't remember the EU task force rushing to help us.
I do remember our ships bring attacked with French manufactured Exocet missiles.
I do remember our ships bring attacked with French manufactured Exocet missiles.
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screwy
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Re: Brexit
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 08:31They last tried it long before Brexit. I don't remember the EU task force rushing to help us.
I do remember our ships bring attacked with French manufactured Exocet missiles.
Mel
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oldbluefox
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Re: Brexit
And once we have the Forces of the Federal European Union I wonder if they will be rushing to keep the Falklands British anyway?
I was taught to be cautious
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Ray Scully
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
Under the EU's 2009 Lisbon Treaty, the Falkland Islands are a British overseas territory to which some EU rules apply. The EU's Duty of Sincere Cooperation includes a legal obligation for member states to assist each other in matters including claims over sovereignty.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/arg ... 50c2f.html
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/arg ... 50c2f.html
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
Is Gibraltar also listed as a British overseas territory? If so will Spain assist us in any claim that SPAIN makes on it?Jack Staff wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:04Under the EU's 2009 Lisbon Treaty, the Falkland Islands are a British overseas territory to which some EU rules apply. The EU's Duty of Sincere Cooperation includes a legal obligation for member states to assist each other in matters including claims over sovereignty.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/arg ... 50c2f.html
John
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
Oh, whataboutery! Spain is obliged to keep stum while we are members. Simple.towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:16Is Gibraltar also listed as a British overseas territory? If so will Spain assist us in any claim that SPAIN makes on it?Jack Staff wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:04Under the EU's 2009 Lisbon Treaty, the Falkland Islands are a British overseas territory to which some EU rules apply. The EU's Duty of Sincere Cooperation includes a legal obligation for member states to assist each other in matters including claims over sovereignty.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/arg ... 50c2f.html
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
Well that's not been very successful then, has it?Jack Staff wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:19Oh, whataboutery! Spain is obliged to keep stum while we are members. Simple.towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:16Is Gibraltar also listed as a British overseas territory? If so will Spain assist us in any claim that SPAIN makes on it?Jack Staff wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:04Under the EU's 2009 Lisbon Treaty, the Falkland Islands are a British overseas territory to which some EU rules apply. The EU's Duty of Sincere Cooperation includes a legal obligation for member states to assist each other in matters including claims over sovereignty.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/arg ... 50c2f.html
John
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
Have we already lost Gibraltar? No.towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:22Well that's not been very successful then, has it?Jack Staff wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:19Oh, whataboutery! Spain is obliged to keep stum while we are members. Simple.towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:16Is Gibraltar also listed as a British overseas territory? If so will Spain assist us in any claim that SPAIN makes on it?Jack Staff wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:04Under the EU's 2009 Lisbon Treaty, the Falkland Islands are a British overseas territory to which some EU rules apply. The EU's Duty of Sincere Cooperation includes a legal obligation for member states to assist each other in matters including claims over sovereignty.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/arg ... 50c2f.html
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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johnds
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Re: Brexit
You can't resist Jack can you.Jack Staff wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 01:09If only someone had said something like this might happen....
"Argentina will exploit a no-deal Brexit to 'enhance' its claims to Falklands, says its foreign minister"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... ds-claims/
A real harbinger of doom
Don't believe everything you read in tomorrows chip wrappings.
Was there a stroll in London or somewhere last week. I and it seems everyone else appears to have forgotten it already
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
Do you want to be lied to?johnds wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:29You can't resist Jack can you.Jack Staff wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 01:09If only someone had said something like this might happen....
"Argentina will exploit a no-deal Brexit to 'enhance' its claims to Falklands, says its foreign minister"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... ds-claims/
A real harbinger of doom
Don't believe everything you read in tomorrows chip wrappings.
Was there a stroll in London or somewhere last week. I and it seems everyone else appears to have forgotten it already
That's what got us into this mess in the first place.
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Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
Has it kept the Spanish quiet? No.Jack Staff wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:23Have we already lost Gibraltar? No.towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:22Well that's not been very successful then, has it?Jack Staff wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:19Oh, whataboutery! Spain is obliged to keep stum while we are members. Simple.towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:16
Is Gibraltar also listed as a British overseas territory? If so will Spain assist us in any claim that SPAIN makes on it?
John
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
Is the border open today? Yes.towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:53Has it kept the Spanish quiet? No.Jack Staff wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:23Have we already lost Gibraltar? No.towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:22Well that's not been very successful then, has it?Jack Staff wrote: 26 Oct 2018, 11:19
Oh, whataboutery! Spain is obliged to keep stum while we are members. Simple.
I'm guessing you don't want to think about the Falklands then?
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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Manoverboard
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Re: Brexit
We ( anytime soon ) independent Brits
will deffo hang on to and resolutely defend the Falklands … if only for the oil 
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