Brexit

[Gill W]

I note the article is over two years old - people were saying words to this effect a few days after the referendum.

For some, it was a a protest vote against the 'establishment'.

I have a new word for you all, which I've no doubt that we'll see a lot over the coming weeks.

'BRINO - Brexit in name only.

[barney]

That's exactly what May is planning Gill.
I doubt she'll ever get it through but you never know and at least she can say she has tried.
There could be a swing of Labour MPs who support BRINO rather than a No Deal.
Corbyn will be gutted.
https://www.politico.eu/article/jeremy- ... op-brexit/

[Jack Staff]

That's exactly what May is planning Gill.
I doubt she'll ever get it through but you never know and at least she can say she has tried.
There could be a swing of Labour MPs who support BRINO rather than a No Deal.
Corbyn will be gutted.
https://www.politico.eu/article/jeremy- ... op-brexit/

Corbyn has ruined any chance of being PM now, because of that interview.

[Onelife]

I note the article is over two years old - people were saying words to this effect a few days after the referendum.

For some, it was a a protest vote against the 'establishment'.

I have a new word for you all, which I've no doubt that we'll see a lot over the coming weeks.

'BRINO - Brexit in name only.

What the article demonstrates to me is that even the well educated can't escape a mindset of complete hopelessness when living in areas where successive governments fail to respond to social deprivation.

Brexit may be the key word in transforming how are country is run but if we don't address the causes of how Brexit came about then we'll have learned nothing about where this country will eventually end up.

Not a nice place me thinks.

[screwy]

That's exactly what May is planning Gill.
I doubt she'll ever get it through but you never know and at least she can say she has tried.
There could be a swing of Labour MPs who support BRINO rather than a No Deal.
Corbyn will be gutted.
https://www.politico.eu/article/jeremy- ... op-brexit/

Corbyn has ruined any chance of being PM now, because of that interview.

That’s the only thing I’ve ever hoped your right on Jack..

[Onelife]

"I've also been told that several ministers, on both sides of the argument, are understood to have called on the prime minister to be honest with the public about the shift in position towards a closer arrangement with the EU.
Months on, I've lost count of the number of times ministers and advisers in government have expressed frustration at how they perceive Theresa May has failed to do that"

Laura kuenessberg

Well l would have been frustrated if Theresa May had disclosed how and where she moves her pieces around .....As in the game of chess......The power is in the final move.

[towny44]

"I've also been told that several ministers, on both sides of the argument, are understood to have called on the prime minister to be honest with the public about the shift in position towards a closer arrangement with the EU.
Months on, I've lost count of the number of times ministers and advisers in government have expressed frustration at how they perceive Theresa May has failed to do that"

Laura kuenessberg

Well l would have been frustrated if Theresa May had disclosed how and where she moves her pieces around .....As in the game of chess......The power is in the final move.

Yes but will it be Barnier or Raab that says check mate?

[Jack Staff]

"I've also been told that several ministers, on both sides of the argument, are understood to have called on the prime minister to be honest with the public about the shift in position towards a closer arrangement with the EU.
Months on, I've lost count of the number of times ministers and advisers in government have expressed frustration at how they perceive Theresa May has failed to do that"

Laura kuenessberg

Well l would have been frustrated if Theresa May had disclosed how and where she moves her pieces around .....As in the game of chess......The power is in the final move.

Yes but will it be Barnier or Raab that says check mate?

You spelt Robbins with two a's.

[johnds]

You spelt Robbins with two a's.

Very erudite Jack !

[Onelife]

You spelt Robbins with two a's.

Very erudite Jack !

Well John, you and Jack have got one on me cos l ain't got a clue what Jack is on about.......clearly erudite doesn't apply to me.

[towny44]

You spelt Robbins with two a's.

Very erudite Jack !

Well John, you and Jack have got one on me cos l ain't got a clue what Jack is on about.......clearly erudite doesn't apply to me.

Apparently Jack is alluding to Olly Robbins, the prime ministers chief Brexit strategist, who he thinks is the power behind the throne.

[Gill W]

Well, here we are again, another Monday, and we are being told that this week is a crunch week (basically the same as every week, but the situation gets more and more urgent).

We have until Wednesday to get some sort of deal together, for any chance of a summit with the EU in November. Otherwise it drifts to the scheduled EU summit on 13th - 14th December.

Bearing in mind that cabinet can't even agree a deal and that Weyand and Robbins were up negotiating to 2.45am this morning and there's still no agreement on the backstop, I think it's fairly safe to say that it'll be a miracle if anything happens between now and Wednesday.

If the cabinet does ever manage to agree what they think the deal will be, the backstop will have to be resolved if the EU are ever going to agree to it.

Assuming the EU do agree to the plan, then it's got to go through Parliament. There probably won't be time before Christmas for the debates, so it'll drift until the New Year. The way things look, I can't see them voting in favour.

I think it's almost certainly going to be a no deal.

Am I talking Project Fear or am I being realistic?

[towny44]

I think maybe you're right Gill, then again you could equally be wrong.

[Gill W]

I think maybe you're right Gill, then again you could equally be wrong.

Is it comfortable on that fence !! ( that is me making a joke!)

[Onelife]

You spelt Robbins with two a's.

Very erudite Jack !

Well John, you and Jack have got one on me cos l ain't got a clue what Jack is on about.......clearly erudite doesn't apply to me.

Apparently Jack is alluding to Olly Robbins, the prime ministers chief Brexit strategist, who he thinks is the power behind the throne.

Thank for that John......l was thinking he was talking Christopher Robbins and a load of poo

[Manoverboard]

You spelt Robbins with two a's.

Very erudite Jack !

Well John, you and Jack have got one on me cos l ain't got a clue what Jack is on about.......clearly erudite doesn't apply to me.

Come on …. as a caravan owner you must have used some to stick the broken units together from time to time

[johnds]

Apparently Jack is alluding to Olly Robbins, the prime ministers chief Brexit strategist, who he thinks is the power behind the throne.

Exactly that.
Interesting that Jack's latest strapline translates approximately from his latin as "B*ll*cks to Brexit 48 %, a sort of permanent admission that the remain camp were in a minority in the referendum.

[Stephen]

You spelt Robbins with two a's.

Very erudite Jack !

Well John, you and Jack have got one on me cos l ain't got a clue what Jack is on about.......clearly erudite doesn't apply to me.

Come on …. as a caravan owner you must have used some to stick the broken units together from time to time

So YOU'RE the one ........

[towny44]

I think maybe you're right Gill, then again you could equally be wrong.

Is it comfortable on that fence !! ( that is me making a joke!)

Well it does help to keep my feet away from the EU crocodiles.

[Onelife]

You spelt Robbins with two a's.

Very erudite Jack !

Well John, you and Jack have got one on me cos l ain't got a clue what Jack is on about.......clearly erudite doesn't apply to me.

Come on …. as a caravan owner you must have used some to stick the broken units together from time to time

It's starting to make sense now Mob

[Ranchi]

If you went into a car showroom and came out three minutes later and announced that you had bought a new car and got a great deal, I’m sure that some of your mates would probably question if you had really got deal (we all know the moment when the salesman sucks his teeth and says he’ll have to go and ask his manager....you then wait 10 minutes while they talk about last night’s telly. Then the manager comes out, shakes your hand and reluctantly agrees to the deal you have reached with the salesman. Smiles all round)
Now I’m sure that if a deal with Europe had been struck months ago there would always have been the doubt that it wasn’t the best deal (& remember, the journo’s have families to feed!) but I think we are now getting deep into what football supporters would call Fergie time.

[Gill W]

Looks like tomorrow is the big day.

According to RTE ( Irish broadcaster), 'withdrawal agreement text has been agreed'.

U.K. Cabinet to meet tomorrow.

Ministers being called to No 10 this evening, to be grilled individually.

[towny44]

Looks like tomorrow is the big day.

According to RTE ( Irish broadcaster), 'withdrawal agreement text has been agreed'.

U.K. Cabinet to meet tomorrow.

Ministers being called to No 10 this evening, to be grilled individually.

Will that be well done or Medium rare?

[screwy]

Think we'll find weve all been well done, Remainers and Brexiteers.

[Manoverboard]

Nobody was ever likely to get everything they wanted … just saying