Brexit

[Onelife]

I expect you think just because you sent her a box of Keefy chocolates she will put you on the New Year's Honours list.

l'd rather be known as 'Sir' Onelife than Senior first officer

Keep the faith foxy l might even find you a job if she makes me a lord

[Stephen]

Lord help us

[screwy]

Got fed up with being called Sir. Much prefer Boss.

[Stephen]

Got fed up with being called Sir. Much prefer Boss.

Thought you would prefer Guvnor

[screwy]

Only southern cons call Officers Guvnor, elsewhere it’s Boss or Sir. I never went to work in a suit plus I had common sense...

[Mervyn and Trish]

I would like to believe you and towny are right.

So would I!

And me. Someone tell Barnier.....

[Onelife]

The cabinet have made a colective desicion to back the Chequers deal so what the hell dose Amber Rudd think she is doing by throwing a large spanner in the works by suggesting that should parliament not pass the chequers deal they then won't allow a 'no deal' = 2 referendum. Her comment is either ill timed or sabotage take your pick.

[Ray Scully]

The cabinet have made a colective desicion to back the Chequers deal so what the hell dose Amber Rudd think she is doing by throwing a large spanner in the works by suggesting that should parliament not pass the chequers deal they then won't allow a 'no deal' = 2 referendum. Her comment is either ill timed or sabotage take your pick.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me. I would suggest that the ERG juxtaposition in the same circumstances would be to crash out

[Manoverboard]

The cabinet have made a colective desicion to back the Chequers deal so what the hell dose Amber Rudd think she is doing by throwing a large spanner in the works by suggesting that should parliament not pass the chequers deal they then won't allow a 'no deal' = 2 referendum. Her comment is either ill timed or sabotage take your pick.

For me she is simply applying pressure on her fellow Tory MPs ( plus others ) to vote ' for ' rather than ' against ' TM's deal, at the same time pointing out the consequence of not doing so.

[Onelife]

The cabinet have made a colective desicion to back the Chequers deal so what the hell dose Amber Rudd think she is doing by throwing a large spanner in the works by suggesting that should parliament not pass the chequers deal they then won't allow a 'no deal' = 2 referendum. Her comment is either ill timed or sabotage take your pick.

For me she is simply applying pressure on her fellow Tory MPs ( plus others ) to vote ' for ' rather than ' against ' TM's deal, at the same time pointing out the consequence of not doing so.

I would suggest giving alternative scenarios at this stage of the negotiations dose nothing to bolster up our position in Europe.

[david63]

All seems totally irrelevant as to whether anyone in the UK agrees with the deal or not as on today's news Spain are going to block it over Gibraltar.

[Manoverboard]

So … does that mean we are caught between a Rock and a hard place.

[towny44]

How does Spain square its attitude to Gibraltar with its handling of the two Spanish enclaves in Morocco?

[Ray Scully]

So … does that mean we are caught between a Rock and a hard place.

No! of course not Moby. We are all going to hell in a handcart

[Gill W]

Going on from what Towny said the other day about the Irish Border in the event of a no deal, Katya Adler has reported

Irish PM Varadkar speaking just now of need for ‘no deal deals’ to be agreed to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland in case of a no deal Brexit in March. Not first time we hear of the no deal deals possibility but the phrase always makes me feel rather cross-eyed!

So a No Deal deal would be required

[screwy]

It all sounds Irish to me...

[towny44]

Going on from what Towny said the other day about the Irish Border in the event of a no deal, Katya Adler has reported

Irish PM Varadkar speaking just now of need for ‘no deal deals’ to be agreed to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland in case of a no deal Brexit in March. Not first time we hear of the no deal deals possibility but the phrase always makes me feel rather cross-eyed!

So a No Deal deal would be required

Sounds a lot like cherry picking to me.

[Gill W]

All seems totally irrelevant as to whether anyone in the UK agrees with the deal or not as on today's news Spain are going to block it over Gibraltar.

May has been to Brussels today, and is now going to return on Saturday. Sticking points are Gibraltar and fishing.

Unless this is resolved, Merkel says she won't go to Brussels on Sunday for the summit.

[towny44]

All seems totally irrelevant as to whether anyone in the UK agrees with the deal or not as on today's news Spain are going to block it over Gibraltar.

May has been to Brussels today, and is now going to return on Saturday. Sticking points are Gibraltar and fishing.

Unless this is resolved, Merkel says she won't go to Brussels on Sunday for the summit.

If its not resolved on Saturday then I doubt there will be a summit.

[Manoverboard]

According to the latest on BBC News the UK / EU bit has been Agreed

ps … Spain would be more interested in Fishing concessions than Gibraltar me thinks.


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[towny44]

Listening to Margaret Beckett, Grant Shapps, Justine Greening etc on politics live discussing the leave agreement I am leaning toward the Guy Fawkes solution to our current problems.

[Gill W]

According to the latest on BBC News the UK / EU bit has been Agreed

ps … Spain would be more interested in Fishing concessions than Gibraltar me thinks.


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I think that’s the draft agreement for our future relationship with the EU, not legally binding, just a political statement. It’s going to take years to actually negotiate.

I think the text of the actual Withdrawal Agreement, due to be formally signed off on Sunday, still hasn’t been finalised.

[towny44]

According to the latest on BBC News the UK / EU bit has been Agreed

ps … Spain would be more interested in Fishing concessions than Gibraltar me thinks.


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I think that’s the draft agreement for our future relationship with the EU, not legally binding, just a political statement. It’s going to take years to actually negotiate.

I think the text of the actual Withdrawal Agreement, due to be formally signed off on Sunday, still hasn’t been finalised.

My understanding is that both documents are now finalised, although not fully signed off, and any amendments wanted by any party would need to be in the form of addendums.

[Manoverboard]

According to the latest on BBC News the UK / EU bit has been Agreed

ps … Spain would be more interested in Fishing concessions than Gibraltar me thinks.


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I think that’s the draft agreement for our future relationship with the EU, not legally binding, just a political statement. It’s going to take years to actually negotiate.

I think the text of the actual Withdrawal Agreement, due to be formally signed off on Sunday, still hasn’t been finalised.

Well, yes, of course …. everything at this stage is a ' Draft / Draught ', I assumed we were all commenting on that basis.

[CaroleF]

What I don't understand is how Mrs. May thinks she's going to get it through in Parliament, unless she's hoping that people will be so scared of the possibility of No Deal that she'll frighten them into accepting her proposal.

Carole