Brexit

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 22 Jan 2019, 15:45

There be a vote a comin'

Unread post by **Manoverboard** » 22 Jan 2019, 15:49

Gill W wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 15:17

Ray Scully wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 02:44

barney wrote: 21 Jan 2019, 22:06
Project Fear is now going into hyper drive. Sky news suggests that nothing will cross the channel for six months. What utter rubbish. Do they think we are that stupid. There is absolutely nothing to stop UK customs waving traffic through. Does anyone really think that every container that arrives from third countries is checked by UK customs.

The anti-democrats are actually getting hysterical.
Not only the anti democrats methinks
In the last couple of weeks I've noticed that the 'fervour' has ratcheted up a couple of notches, in certain quarters

No idea who you have in mind but I would share your opinion about ' fervour in certain quarters ' if this related to those MPs in the House who are still desperately trying to force their views about having a second referendum on everybody else in spite of having little chance of achieving one.

Unread post by **Gill W** » 22 Jan 2019, 15:57

I was talking about certain members of this forum!

Unread post by **Ray Scully** » 22 Jan 2019, 16:06

Gill W wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 15:17

Ray Scully wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 02:44

barney wrote: 21 Jan 2019, 22:06
Project Fear is now going into hyper drive. Sky news suggests that nothing will cross the channel for six months. What utter rubbish. Do they think we are that stupid. There is absolutely nothing to stop UK customs waving traffic through. Does anyone really think that every container that arrives from third countries is checked by UK customs.

The anti-democrats are actually getting hysterical.
Not only the anti democrats methinks
In the last couple of weeks, I've noticed that the 'fervour' has ratcheted up a couple of notches, in certain quarters

Gill, Nothing like the fervour that the vast majority of commentators predict could be expected on the 1st April if we crash out. Leavers, be careful what you wish for, what you see depends mainly on what you are looking for.

Unread post by **Manoverboard** » 22 Jan 2019, 16:15

Gill W wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 15:57
I was talking about certain members of this forum!

I did wonder

Unread post by **Ray Scully** » 22 Jan 2019, 17:02

Manoverboard wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 16:15

Gill W wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 15:57
I was talking about certain members of this forum!
I did wonder

The whole situation is getting out of hand, in a discussion this weekend an acquaintance described Brexiteers as monomaniacs. I thought this totally unacceptable, using words that many would not understand.

Unread post by **Stephen** » 22 Jan 2019, 17:09

Bl**dy cheek Ray.

Everyone knows monomaniacs are Monopoly fanatics. I dunno.....some people

Unread post by **Ray Scully** » 22 Jan 2019, 17:30

The shameless hypocrisy of this leading Brexiters knows no bounds and today we learn that James Dyson, one of Brexit’s biggest backers, is moving his HQ from Wiltshire in the UK to Singapore.
Many leading Brexiters trumpeted Dyson as a model for how businesses in post-Brexit Britain could thrive, but the reality of Brexit is jobs being outsourced, companies leaving and investment drying up.
Who is conning who????

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 22 Jan 2019, 17:47

But it is only their headquarters that are moving,
Like Panasonic, Sony and Mitsubishi.
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/01/s ... therlands/

While it may only be the headquarters, it's where they report their tax that's actually going.

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 22 Jan 2019, 17:59

I see why Dyson is moving his HQ to Singapore.
3 months ago Singapore signed a free trade agreement with the EU
- so Dyson will have more access to European markets from Singapore than from the UK!
{Adonis}

Unread post by **barney** » 22 Jan 2019, 18:21

Calm down dear. Check Reuters to see the real story, void of the hysteria of the anti democrat UK mainstream media. Asia is the main market for his electric car production.

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 22 Jan 2019, 18:25

barney wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 18:21
Calm down dear. Check Reuters to see the real story, void of the hysteria of the anti democrat UK mainstream media. Asia is the main market for his electric car production.

... and?

Of course, silly me. All these companies leaving is not because of Brexit.

They just fancy being somewhere else from now on.

Unread post by **Mervyn and Trish** » 22 Jan 2019, 18:29

Funny how companies moved before Brexit was even a word!

Unread post by **barney** » 22 Jan 2019, 18:32

According to today's Guardian Jack, the EU have now openly admitted to Ireland that they will implement the hard border if no WA is agreed. It's not pleased Varadkar very much. At least a bit of honesty at last. So now the Irish know exactly where they stand. We now may see a bit of movement on this impossible back stop.

Unread post by **barney** » 22 Jan 2019, 18:33

Mervyn and Trish wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 18:29
Funny how companies moved before Brexit was even a word!

Oh, don't start being sensible Merv. That ruins all the fun.

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 22 Jan 2019, 18:39

barney wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 18:32
According to today's Guardian Jack, the EU have now openly admitted to Ireland that they will implement the hard border if no WA is agreed. It's not pleased Varadkar very much. At least a bit of honesty at last. So now the Irish know exactly where they stand. We now may see a bit of movement on this impossible back stop.

Yes. You have to have a border. Haven't I always said that?

How do we do that and still honour the Good Friday agreement (hint: this is international law, not EU law).

So no 'no deal' it is then.

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 22 Jan 2019, 18:40

Mervyn and Trish wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 18:29
Funny how companies moved before Brexit was even a word!

Unread post by **david63** » 22 Jan 2019, 18:49

Jack Staff wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 18:39
You have to have a border. Haven't I always said that?

How do we do that and still honour the Good Friday agreement

Like everyone has been saying - you have a "soft" border.

Since it was first suggested the soft border could have been up and running by now.

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 22 Jan 2019, 18:54

david63 wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 18:49

Jack Staff wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 18:39
You have to have a border. Haven't I always said that?

How do we do that and still honour the Good Friday agreement
Like everyone has been saying - you have a "soft" border.

Since it was first suggested the soft border could have been up and running by now.

No one has actually come up with a plan even. They say Norway/Sweden or Swiss border, but there are problems with both.
Any structures on the actual border almost certainly means the return of 'the troubles'.
Now I'm not saying the recent bombings in Derry/Londonderry are the fault of Brexit, just that the troubles are not as far away as some might like to think.

Unread post by **Ray Scully** » 22 Jan 2019, 20:04

barney wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 18:21
Calm down dear. Check Reuters to see the real story, void of the hysteria of the anti democrat UK mainstream media. Asia is the main market for his electric car production.

and Malaysia is where he currently, and has been for many years manufactured his electrical appliances.

Unread post by **barney** » 22 Jan 2019, 20:17

That's common knowledge. His research and development is done in the UK where the most innovative minds are. Our little rock is world famous for innovation. (despite Brexit)

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 22 Jan 2019, 21:14

barney wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 20:17
That's common knowledge. His research and development is done in the UK where the most innovative minds are. Our little rock is world famous for innovation. (despite Brexit)

...innovation and tax evasion.

Something that becomes a lot more difficult if we stay in the EU.
I wonder why the arch Brexiter, after all his campaigning has decided now is the time to leave.

Unread post by **barney** » 22 Jan 2019, 21:22

We are leaving the EU. Have you not been keeping up.

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 22 Jan 2019, 21:25

barney wrote: 22 Jan 2019, 21:22
We are leaving the EU. Have you not been keeping up.

Doesn't look like Dyson thinks so.

Unread post by **Stephen** » 23 Jan 2019, 07:00

They were moving anyway regardless of Brexit......so they say

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