Brexit

[Jack Staff]

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar says in a No Deal scenario the UK would have to agree to full regulatory and customs alignment in NI if it were to honour its obligations to the GFA and the peace process.
Varadkar added that the UK might struggle to negotiate free trade agreements elsewhere if the Irish border question remained unresolved in a No Deal scenario.
Speaking in Davos the Taoiseach said: “The United Kingdom would have a responsibility to abide by WTO rules and both the UK and Ireland would have responsibilities to honour the Good Friday Agreement and the peace process.
“So I think we would end up in a situation where EU and Ireland and the UK would have to come together, and in order to honour our commitment to the people of Ireland that there be no hard border, we would have to agree on full alignment on customs and regulations,
”...so after a period of chaos we would perhaps end up where we are now, with a very similar deal.
“In a No Deal scenario Ireland will still be in the single market, and will still be part of all those trade deals which come with being part of Europe, the trade deal with Japan, the trade deal with Canada, the trade deal with Korea, the trade deal with Singapore.
“In a No Deal scenario, the UK won’t have any trade deals with anyone, and I think it will be very difficult for them to conclude any trade deals with the question of the Irish border unresolved. Given we have a solution on the table already, let’s ratify that.”
{Tony Connelly}

[oldbluefox]

This is a lengthy article but it seems to make sense to me, unless, of course, anybody is deliberately putting obstacles in the way.

https://brexitcentral.com/solution-irish-border/

[oldbluefox]

Who was it who said the BBC weren't biased?

BRITTANY FERRIES ACCUSE BBC OF ‘NONSENSE’ SCAREMONGERING
Brittany Ferries have moved to slap down Remainer scaremongering about international travel beyond March, and reassure passenmgers. The iconic ferry company accused the BBC of peddling “nonsense” and reassured potential passengers that they can book beyond March.

“The company would like to make clear that passengers can book crossings to France and Spain, and sail-and-stay holidays as normal. There is absolutely no truth in speculation that passengers are being advised not to book because all space has been allocated to freight.

The reality is that Brittany Ferries has added 19 crossings on three of its nine routes leaving the UK. The additional sailings create more space for freight, as requested by the DfT. As a consequence, there is now more choice for passengers rather than less.”

Maybe it’s time for the BBC to start listening to the experts?

[Jack Staff]

Who was it who said the BBC weren't biased?

Well it certainly wasn't Guido Fawkes!!!!

At least I credit my sources.

[oldbluefox]

You're right Jack.
At least you are consistent in ignoring anything you don't like to hear.

[Jack Staff]

You're right Jack.
At least you are consistent in ignoring anything you don't like to hear.

On the contrary. I am constantly reading stuff about BBC bias. True, I don't like to hear it as I believe the BBC should be neutral.
You will not be surprised that most of the stuff I read refers to them something like the Brexit Broadcasting Corp. or some such.
Hence I am afraid to say I no longer trust their reporting either.
With this amount of distrust from both sides, I fear auntie Beeb will be yet another casualty of Brexit.

[oldbluefox]

On that we can agree. I accept there will be news agencies which will be biased one way or another but there should be somebody you can trust to give honest truthful reporting rather than consistently looking at worst case scenarios in the cause of sensationalism.
For the rest they will say "It sells papers". However how moral is it to scare people one way or another when it is based on half truths?
The extract I posted came as a consequence of people due to travel abroad who were booked with Brittany Ferries and concerned about their travel plans after BBC reporting.

You and I agreeing? Whatever next!!!!

[Quizzical Bob]

Who was it who said the BBC weren't biased?

BRITTANY FERRIES ACCUSE BBC OF ‘NONSENSE’ SCAREMONGERING
Brittany Ferries have moved to slap down Remainer scaremongering about international travel beyond March, and reassure passenmgers. The iconic ferry company accused the BBC of peddling “nonsense” and reassured potential passengers that they can book beyond March.

“The company would like to make clear that passengers can book crossings to France and Spain, and sail-and-stay holidays as normal. There is absolutely no truth in speculation that passengers are being advised not to book because all space has been allocated to freight.

The reality is that Brittany Ferries has added 19 crossings on three of its nine routes leaving the UK. The additional sailings create more space for freight, as requested by the DfT. As a consequence, there is now more choice for passengers rather than less.”

Maybe it’s time for the BBC to start listening to the experts?

Would this would be the same Brittany Ferris that has reschudeld thousands of passengers to make more room for freight?

"Up to 10,000 cross-Channel ferry passengers face disruption as part of contingency planning for a no-deal Brexit, it was revealed yesterday.

Brittany Ferries has warned passengers that timetables have been amended in the weeks after Britain leaves the EU to create additional space to transport “critical goods” across the Channel.

Passengers with bookings in the six weeks after Brexit — including over the Easter school holidays — have been told that they have been rebooked on to ferries with a different departure time."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/thou ... -xq3zd8w5v (paywall)

[oldbluefox]

That is true Bob but a bit different to telling passengers there would be no international transport after March. My view is that there will still be transport across to France and Portugal after March contrary to what some may be saying. Why do stations such as The BBC and Sky like to peddle worst case scenarios? I am pleased contingences are being made to ensure supplies are maintained. What would people say if nothing was planned?

[Gill W]

That is true Bob but a bit different to telling passengers there would be no international transport after March. My view is that there will still be transport across to France and Portugal after March contrary to what some may be saying. Why do stations such as The BBC and Sky like to peddle worst case scenarios? I am pleased contingences are being made to ensure supplies are maintained. What would people say if nothing was planned?

It is weird though, that we've had to go into contingency planning mode for something we are inflicting on ourselves - not enemy action or natural disaster.

This was the BBC news story in question

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46946499

There's nothing in there to suggest that there would be 'no international transport after March'. The report seems factual and says bookings were amended. There's no worse case scenario being peddled - maybe Brittany Ferries over reacted a little?

[Mervyn and Trish]

Now that a second referendum is off the table, things should progress more smoothly in Parliament.

You wish!

Well the MPs wo have a vote in the Commons seem to have ruled it out Jack, even if you haven't!

[oldbluefox]

There's nothing in there to suggest that there would be 'no international transport after March'. The report seems factual and says bookings were amended. There's no worse case scenario being peddled - maybe Brittany Ferries over reacted a little?

Not sure how it was interpreted by Ms Kuennsberg on BBC TV but I would presume Brittany Ferries were responding to a hail of enquiries from concerned customers.

[Stephen]

[oldbluefox]

He was on good form.

[Jack Staff]

Retreating to Daily Express clips from Question Time.
Amazing how far some will go to find solace.

[Ray Scully]

Retreating to Daily Express clips from Question Time.
Amazing how far some will go to find solace.

[Gill W]

The Leave campaigns promised the impossible, no wonder there's been a failure to implement it!

[towny44]

I see that the mayor of the Calais, Boulogne , Dunkirk region says a no deal will be easy to handle if both sides use common sense, finally a European official with a modicum of intelligence.

[Ray Scully]

The Leave campaigns promised the impossible, no wonder there's been a failure to implement it!

Gill
promised the impossible
Now can you help me, that's a euphemism for ???

[Gill W]

The Leave campaigns promised the impossible, no wonder there's been a failure to implement it!

Gill
promised the impossible
Now can you help me, that's a euphemism for ???

I couldn't possibly say!

[oldbluefox]

Retreating to Daily Express clips from Question Time.
Amazing how far some will go to find solace.

He was better still on QT.

[oldbluefox]

I see that the mayor of the Calais, Boulogne , Dunkirk region says a no deal will be easy to handle if both sides use common sense, finally a European official with a modicum of intelligence.

I don't think the headless chickens in the Remain camp will want to hear that. Did he make no mention of 'crashing out'?

[Jack Staff]

I see that the mayor of the Calais, Boulogne , Dunkirk region says a no deal will be easy to handle if both sides use common sense, finally a European official with a modicum of intelligence.

I don't think the headless chickens in the Remain camp will want to hear that. Did he make no mention of 'crashing out'?

You are right, I don't want to hear that from John. Because either he still has no idea of what the E.U. is or he is being disingenuous.

I would trust Johns statement is correct (no link to see), I assume he means Xavier Bertrand, who has also said
"I cannot begin to imagine there not being a deal between the U.K and the E.U.".
Secondly Bertrand is a European, he is also an official. The implied suggestion Bertrand is an E.U. official is, er, 'misleading'.

[oldbluefox]

The common sense solution to this problem is a deal. It's semantics but maybe John should have said 'an official in Europe'. Nevertheless the Mayor of Calais is spot on.

[Jack Staff]

The common sense solution to this problem is a deal.

Yes, and the best one available is the one we already have.

It's semantics but maybe John should have said 'an official in Europe'. Nevertheless the Mayor of Calais is spot on.

Of course the president of Haut-de-France has a duty to 'big up' his region.