Brexit

[towny44]

You've got me confused too now Jack. What has any of this got to do with siding with Putin?

I think he must be some sort of politician Merv, he never answers the question asked and always manages to pose a new, unrelated, question of his own; and he regularly totally confuses me as well.

[Jack Staff]

You've got me confused too now Jack. What has any of this got to do with siding with Putin?

You surprise me Merv, I thought you were knowledgable on all things Brexit?
Can't see how you haven't heard, though I suppose it wouldn't be headline news in the Daily Mail.
Just google something like 'Putin Brexit money', plenty of reading there to get you up to speed.
Try 'Arron Banks Brexit' as well.
All interesting reading to find out just who is on your 'side'.

[barney]

You love a bit of fake news, you remainers, don't you. Clutch that straw.

[Jack Staff]

You love a bit of fake news, you remainers, don't you. Clutch that straw.

Do tell us what is fake.

[Jack Staff]

Leaving the EU will probably have very little impact initially because we will still be in in all but name. Longer term, it will be more noticeable as we move further away. I'd like to see a policy of helping emerging countries particularly in Africa. At the moment,the protectionist EU shuts them out.

You will be pleased to know about this then Barney.....

Everything but Arms (EBA) is an initiative of the European Union under which all imports to the EU from the Least Developed Countries are duty-free and quota-free, with the exception of armaments. EBA entered into force on 5 March 2001.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_but_Arms

Unfortunately it doesn't fit your "protectionist EU" narrative.

[Onelife]

A well deserved ripple of applause at the end of his speech

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XR2snMKWbUM

incidentally this is the speech the BBC wouldn't broadcast.......why?........because they are bias remainers

[barney]

I'll happily admit that I did not know of this scheme. It's a shame that the UK is the largest importer but we didn't know about it. I'm sure that all of the countries signed up will be keen to replicate it with an independent UK. According to the guardian, brexit will cost these poor countries 1.7billion.

[Quizzical Bob]

There are many companies in the UK whose business model is only viable within the Single Market and these will diappear.

At the moment there is no EU red tape but after Brexit there will be piles of it. Selling and buying within the Single Market is a doddle.

Please remind me again of any advantages to this mess we have made for ourselves? I have been waiting over two and a half years and I still haven't received any answers.

An alternative view and maybe an answer to your question QB. Not all rosy in the EU marketplace. Great for some. Disaster for others.

http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2016/06/16 ... -industry/

John Redwood??? You cannot be serious.

[Stephen]

A well deserved ripple of applause at the end of his speech

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XR2snMKWbUM

incidentally this is the speech the BBC wouldn't broadcast.......why?........because they are bias remainers

Saw this a few days ago Keith, and as usual with Nige, like him or loath him, he doesn't pussyfoot around but tells it like it is. A straight talker, which I like

[Quizzical Bob]

Quizzical Bob makes a good case, not for remaining in the EU, but for striking a deal which is satisfactory to both ourselves and the EU.

There is no deal that comes even close to remaining in the EU and being a member of the Single Market.

[Quizzical Bob]

A well deserved ripple of applause at the end of his speech

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XR2snMKWbUM

incidentally this is the speech the BBC wouldn't broadcast.......why?........because they are bias remainers

Saw this a few days ago Keith, and as usual with Nige, like him or loath him, he doesn't pussyfoot around but tells it like it is. A straight talker, which I like

Farage is just a big mouth. He's the bloke down the pub who knows the answer to everything and could put the world to rights in four days and then have the Friday off to play golf.

I cannot for the life of me see why anybody would take him seriously.

[Ray Scully]

A well deserved ripple of applause at the end of his speech

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XR2snMKWbUM

incidentally this is the speech the BBC wouldn't broadcast.......why?........because they are bias remainers

Saw this a few days ago Keith, and as usual with Nige, like him or loath him, he doesn't pussyfoot around but tells it like it is. A straight talker, which I like

Farage is just a big mouth. He's the bloke down the pub who knows the answer to everything and could put the world to rights in four days and then have the Friday off to play golf.

I cannot for the life of me see why anybody would take him seriously.

Despite him being a born entertainer you have to take Nige seriously, he has and is, making a load of dosh from his political jiggery-pokery.

[Manoverboard]

Fish …… UK shortage is due to depletion of stocks caused by 27 countries having a quota plus the Russians hoovering them up without any form of permit. Moving forward folk will eat less fish cos they are fearful of the plastic particles contained therein …. just saying.

ps … Good ol Nige, it was he who got us the Referendum and the right to leave the EU if the vote went that way

[Ray Scully]

Fish …… UK shortage is due to depletion of stocks caused by 27 countries having a quota plus the Russians hoovering them up without any form of permit. Moving forward folk will eat less fish cos they are fearful of the plastic particles contained therein …. just saying.

ps … Good ol Nige, it was he who got us the Referendum and the right to leave the EU if the vote went that way

and if it all goes wrong for him he can always get a job selling dodgy second-hand cars (illegally imported )

But hey the real test, who would like him as a table companion on a 2 week cruise?

ps sorry for mentioning cruising

[Onelife]

A well deserved ripple of applause at the end of his speech

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XR2snMKWbUM

incidentally this is the speech the BBC wouldn't broadcast.......why?........because they are bias remainers

Saw this a few days ago Keith, and as usual with Nige, like him or loath him, he doesn't pussyfoot around but tells it like it is. A straight talker, which I like

Farage is just a big mouth. He's the bloke down the pub who knows the answer to everything and could put the world to rights in four days and then have the Friday off to play golf.

I cannot for the life of me see why anybody would take him seriously.

British politics had no affiliation with the people it was supposed to represent which is the reason why many voted for change. He may well be a big mouth but he has given our political system the wake up call it desperately needed and for that he must take some praise in my book.

[Mervyn and Trish]

You've got me confused too now Jack. What has any of this got to do with siding with Putin?

You surprise me Merv, I thought you were knowledgable on all things Brexit?
Can't see how you haven't heard, though I suppose it wouldn't be headline news in the Daily Mail.
Just google something like 'Putin Brexit money', plenty of reading there to get you up to speed.
Try 'Arron Banks Brexit' as well.
All interesting reading to find out just who is on your 'side'.

That doesn't answer my question about siding with Putin, unless you simply mean Putin is a Brexit supporter and millions of people are too. That doesn't mean I side with him or agree with his other opinions and actions.

Did you just vote to remain because you were upset Putin invaded Ukraine?

I understand many people like a nice roast beef dinner. So do I. That doesn't mean they side with me or agree with everything else I do.

[Mervyn and Trish]

There are many companies in the UK whose business model is only viable within the Single Market and these will diappear.

At the moment there is no EU red tape but after Brexit there will be piles of it. Selling and buying within the Single Market is a doddle.

Please remind me again of any advantages to this mess we have made for ourselves? I have been waiting over two and a half years and I still haven't received any answers.

An alternative view and maybe an answer to your question QB. Not all rosy in the EU marketplace. Great for some. Disaster for others.

http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2016/06/16 ... -industry/

John Redwood??? You cannot be serious.

What not? His opinion is as valid as anyone else's.

But never mind the person. Do you not accept that manufacturing has been decimated during our time in the EU?

[Gill W]

Meanwhile in actual news

We have the first meeting today of the Alternative Arrangements Working Group, to try and find an alternative arrangement to the backstop.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47110641

It took the best part of two years to secure the WA, with its backstop, and we were assured that this was the only possible way forward.

Now, a small group are expected to find a new solution that has never been thought of before, in a couple of days, it's got to be agreed with the EU (who have consistently said that they will not reopen negotiations) within a couple more days, then it's got to come back to Westminster all done and dusted in time for the vote on 14th February (just 10 days time)

It's not exactly likely, is it.

Furthermore, it's another indication that May is intent on kicking the can down the road. It's clear she had no clue what she was going to say to Brussels, but was content to delay for two more weeks

I wonder what further delaying tactic she'll think of when the deal is voted down again, next week.

[screwy]

Maybe it’s a shame that these two opposing groups didn’t get together 2 yrs ago,like cross party.

[Manoverboard]

Fish …… UK shortage is due to depletion of stocks caused by 27 countries having a quota plus the Russians hoovering them up without any form of permit. Moving forward folk will eat less fish cos they are fearful of the plastic particles contained therein …. just saying.

ps … Good ol Nige, it was he who got us the Referendum and the right to leave the EU if the vote went that way

and if it all goes wrong for him he can always get a job selling dodgy second-hand cars (illegally imported )

But hey the real test, who would like him as a table companion on a 2 week cruise?

ps sorry for mentioning cruising

I suspect that he would be a tad more lively than some we've sat across on our cruises

[towny44]

Quizzical Bob makes a good case, not for remaining in the EU, but for striking a deal which is satisfactory to both ourselves and the EU.

There is no deal that comes even close to remaining in the EU and being a member of the Single Market.

If ease of trade was the only criteria then your comment may have merit QB, since there are lots of other reasons, that the leavers on this thread have expounded tirelessly over the last 3 years, involved in the decision then your comment lacks any merit.

[Manoverboard]

Meanwhile in actual news

We have the first meeting today of the Alternative Arrangements Working Group, to try and find an alternative arrangement to the backstop.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47110641

It took the best part of two years to secure the WA, with its backstop, and we were assured that this was the only possible way forward.

Now, a small group are expected to find a new solution that has never been thought of before, in a couple of days, it's got to be agreed with the EU (who have consistently said that they will not reopen negotiations) within a couple more days, then it's got to come back to Westminster all done and dusted in time for the vote on 14th February (just 10 days time)

It's not exactly likely, is it.

…..………. contd

…. Why not, most things are achievable in this technical age if one looks hard enough.

It does seem however that Angela Merkel is a half glass full type of person given her comments in your News report …

" But German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the EU would listen to proposals to solve the Irish border "riddle", but they needed to hear how the UK wanted to do it."

It's not over until the fat lady sings

[towny44]

It's not over until the fat lady sings

Crikey do we have to listen to Dianne Abbott serenading us before we can leave the EU.

[Stephen]

It's not over until the fat lady sings

Crikey do we have to listen to Dianne Abbott serenading us before we can leave the EU.

And I bet she would sing "knock seven times on the ceiling if you want me"

[screwy]

She would have to be singing to Corbum cos no one else would want her, to think they both beat a million other sperm...