"If Croesus goes to war he will destroy a great empire."barney wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 17:46...
History shows us that ultimately all Empires fall.
The EU empire may be closer to falling than the EU zealots think.
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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barney
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Blimey you must be older than I thought Jack. Did you know him personallyJack Staff wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 18:04"If Croesus goes to war he will destroy a great empire."barney wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 17:46...
History shows us that ultimately Empires fall.
The EU empire may be closer to falling than the EU zealots think.
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Ray Scully
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Barney old chapbarney wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 17:46I think that the attached link says more about the EU than I could
https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-u ... sts-spain/
Colony ? How dare they! What an insult to the people of Gibraltar.
They claim to be the purveyors of democracy while ignoring the wishes of simple folk at every turn.
I'm blooming glad that we are getting out and will be our own masters.
And before the anti democrats jump on the bandwagon and point out that Gibraltar voted to remain in the EU, yes I know that they did.
And if they wanted a referendum to leave the jurisdiction of the UK in favour of Spain, I'm 100% sure the UK government to allow it.
But taking it by stealth is outrageous.
They condemn Russia for annexing Crimea, and then try to do the very same thing with Gibraltar and Northern Ireland.
History shows us that ultimately all Empires fall.
The EU empire may be closer to falling than the EU zealots think.
https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... +liverpool
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Jack Staff
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But it's OK when we did it in the 1980's eh?barney wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 17:46...
Colony ? How dare they! What an insult to the people of Gibraltar.
They claim to be the purveyors of democracy while ignoring the wishes of simple folk at every turn.
I'm blooming glad that we are getting out and will be our own masters.
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Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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barney
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barney
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Are there any lengths you won't stoop to to justify and protect your beloved EU. Stockholm Syndrome comes to mind. Stockholm is in Sweden. Sweden is in the EU. How will you cope when we have left.?Jack Staff wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 20:44But it's OK when we did it in the 1980's eh?barney wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 17:46...
Colony ? How dare they! What an insult to the people of Gibraltar.
They claim to be the purveyors of democracy while ignoring the wishes of simple folk at every turn.
I'm blooming glad that we are getting out and will be our own masters.
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towny44
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Jack, I am still waiting for an answer to the above question, still not wanting to answer the difficult questions???>towny44 wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 09:11Jack, if you feel that's the way the rest of the EU view the UK, then why are you so keen to remain a member and for us continue to be a sidetracked sideshow??Jack Staff wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 00:01That's funny, I must have seen a different episode.
The one I saw had a state on the fringes of the EU, after causing trouble for some time, trying to tell the the EU how things were going to be.
Understandably the other 27 came together to do whatever they could, whilst maintaining the integrity of the union.
But I do agree, fascinating.
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Jack Staff
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That wasn't a difficult question, it was a pathetic loaded one.towny44 wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 22:44Jack, I am still waiting for an answer to the above question, still not wanting to answer the difficult questions???>
You are obviously attempting to ask something along the lines of the old classic "Have you stopped beating your wife?".
Hence I shall ignore it. You are welcome to ask a sensible question however. Go on, have a go, you might just be able.
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towny44
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You're still slippery as an eel Jack, are you sure you aren't a politician since you have all the cunning characteristics of one?Jack Staff wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 00:43That wasn't a difficult question, it was a pathetic loaded one.towny44 wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 22:44Jack, I am still waiting for an answer to the above question, still not wanting to answer the difficult questions???>
You are obviously attempting to ask something along the lines of the old classic "Have you stopped beating your wife?".
Hence I shall ignore it. You are welcome to ask a sensible question however. Go on, have a go, you might just be able.
John
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Jack Staff
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You are obviously not able.towny44 wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 09:48You're still slippery as an eel Jack, are you sure you aren't a politician since you have all the cunning characteristics of one?Jack Staff wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 00:43You are welcome to ask a sensible question however. Go on, have a go, you might just be able.
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towny44
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Well I thought it was a sensible question to ask of someone who is such a staunch supporter of the EU, and who also claims to be a patriotic UK supporter, but is content to accept the ridicule of the other 27.Jack Staff wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 10:37You are obviously not able.towny44 wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 09:48You're still slippery as an eel Jack, are you sure you aren't a politician since you have all the cunning characteristics of one?Jack Staff wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 00:43You are welcome to ask a sensible question however. Go on, have a go, you might just be able.
John
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Jack Staff
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Sorry John, not only do I refuse to, but I think I am unable to sink to your level of conversation.towny44 wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 14:05Well I thought it was a sensible question to ask of someone who is such a staunch supporter of the EU, and who also claims to be a patriotic UK supporter, but is content to accept the ridicule of the other 27.
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Stephen
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screwy
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Ray Scully
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Yep Screwy these Leavers are a charming bunchscrewy wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 18:38Seems like Tusk has got his charm from Some forum members ..no names,no pack drill.
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screwy
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Pot,kettle and black Ray..Now let’s not let a couple of Lancashire lads fall out..lol
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Tusk's comment and the subsequent jumping on the bandwagon by Guy Verhofstadt just go to reinforce that we need to get away from this toxic and offensive institution as soon as possible.
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Jack Staff
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Well, I doubt Lucifer would welcome them, as after what they did to Britain, they would even manage to divide hell.
Guy Verhofstadt:
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Guy Verhofstadt:
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Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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oldbluefox
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 19:29Tusk's comment and the subsequent jumping on the bandwagon by Guy Verhofstadt just go to reinforce that we need to get away from this toxic and offensive institution as soon as possible.
I was taught to be cautious
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Ray Scully
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Plastic Scouser Screwyscrewy wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 19:13Pot,kettle and black Ray..Now let’s not let a couple of Lancashire lads fall out..lol
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barney
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At the end of the day, if they don't wish to talk, then eff them.Jack Staff wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 19:40Well, I doubt Lucifer would welcome them, as after what they did to Britain, they would even manage to divide hell.
Guy Verhofstadt:
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Every time Verhofstadt opens his mouth he reinforces why millions voted to leave this circus.
I'm ok if they want to do a reciprical deal, but if not, then we just leave without the WA.
As Mr Juncker and Tusk were very keen on saying at the beginning, nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.
Roll on march 29th
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screwy
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O you are being insulting....Manc born Morecambe bred, bugger all scouse about me....live on the banks of the Douglas with a Preston postcode.
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Gill W
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Tusk is saying that he's sick of those who instigated Brexit not having a clue how to complete it.
You might not like the way he put it - but he does have a point.
You might not like the way he put it - but he does have a point.
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barney
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He may well have a point Gill, but he knows that comments like this will inflame the situation and are unnecessary at this stage.Gill W wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 20:14Tusk is saying that he's sick of those who instigated Brexit not having a clue how to complete it.
You might not like the way he put it - but he does have a point.
It's becoming more obvious as to why he is so detested in Poland and why he was so easily beaten in their election.
The same with Verhofstadt in Belgium.
Paradoxically, Juncker is a legend in that hot bed of international politics, Luxembourg.
I wonder how they will all feel when their time is up and history shows that Brexit happened on their watch.
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Ray Scully
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Screwy I am the plastic Scouserscrewy wrote: 06 Feb 2019, 20:11O you are being insulting....Manc born Morecambe bred, bug*er all scouse about me....live on the banks of the Douglas with a Preston postcode.
Now have a Liverpool post code, pay rates to Chorley, Southport telephone No. Sth Lancs Parliamentary constituency. A real Billy no Mates