Brexit

[Jack Staff]

Well with no deal off the table, there is only one way forward. That is unilaterally revoke article 50. Then 1st of April, invoke article 50 with a two year deadline and start again.

Almost agree. (and no deal is not dead yet).
Revoke A50.
Brexiters come up with a plan, that doesn't involve unicorns.
Then a vote (preferably parliamentary, not another 'king stupid referendum)
Depending on result trigger A50 again or just get on with our lives and put this nightmare behind us.

[Jack Staff]

Reports of chaos in the voting lobbies right now as it emerges that Theresa May voted against her OWN motion to opted to keep No Deal alive.
To which MP Jess Philips told her it was a disgrace.
“I hope she is gone by the morning, she doesn’t deserve her office.”
{Siobhan Kennedy}

[towny44]

Reports of chaos in the voting lobbies right now as it emerges that Theresa May voted against her OWN motion to opted to keep No Deal alive.
To which MP Jess Philips told her it was a disgrace.
“I hope she is gone by the morning, she doesn’t deserve her office.”
{Siobhan Kennedy}

That's rather old news Jack, she announced on PMQs that was how she intended voting.

[Jack Staff]

Reports of chaos in the voting lobbies right now as it emerges that Theresa May voted against her OWN motion to opted to keep No Deal alive.
To which MP Jess Philips told her it was a disgrace.
“I hope she is gone by the morning, she doesn’t deserve her office.”
{Siobhan Kennedy}

That's rather old news Jack, she announced on PMQs that was how she intended voting.

She said she would vote For her motion.

[Jack Staff]

She whipped against her own position from yesterday and still lost. Theresa May now so weak she can’t even defeat Theresa May.
{James Felton}

[barney]

If she had an ounce of pride, she would resign.
Losing so many votes is unprecedented.

Her parting shot before falling on her sword should be to fire the four ministers who abstained, causing her to lose the Spelman amendment.
They are also a disgrace.

It's been a terrible few days for 17.4 million Brexit voters who, rightly so, expect their elected representatives to carry through the instruction.

Tonight has pretty well expelled the last fragile breaths of our perceived democracy.

[Jack Staff]

If she had an ounce of pride, she would resign.
Losing so many votes is unprecedented.

Her parting shot before falling on her sword should be to fire the four ministers who abstained, causing her to lose the Spelman amendment.
They are also a disgrace.

It's been a terrible few days for 17.4 million Brexit voters who, rightly so, expect their elected representatives to carry through the instruction.

Tonight has pretty well expelled the last fragile breaths of our perceived democracy.

Forgive me for feeling a little happier tonight.
But Parliamentary democracy is returning to our country, that's what Brexiters wanted after all.

[Onelife]

If she had an ounce of pride, she would resign.
Losing so many votes is unprecedented.

Her parting shot before falling on her sword should be to fire the four ministers who abstained, causing her to lose the Spelman amendment.
They are also a disgrace.

It's been a terrible few days for 17.4 million Brexit voters who, rightly so, expect their elected representatives to carry through the instruction.

Tonight has pretty well expelled the last fragile breaths of our perceived democracy.

Forgive me for feeling a little happier tonight.
But Parliamentary democracy is returning to our country, that's what Brexiters wanted after all.

No it isn't Jack, democracry is in the hands of the mob who are now charged to come up with a deal that will get a majority in the house...good luck with that.

[barney]

If she had an ounce of pride, she would resign.
Losing so many votes is unprecedented.

Her parting shot before falling on her sword should be to fire the four ministers who abstained, causing her to lose the Spelman amendment.
They are also a disgrace.

It's been a terrible few days for 17.4 million Brexit voters who, rightly so, expect their elected representatives to carry through the instruction.

Tonight has pretty well expelled the last fragile breaths of our perceived democracy.

Forgive me for feeling a little happier tonight.
But Parliamentary democracy is returning to our country, that's what Brexiters wanted after all.

You could not be more wrong my old mate and you are only pleased because it's perceived that it has gone your way.
If Parliament had of voted to leave on the 29th with no agreement, you'd be going balistic.

MPs are elected too represent the people of their constituancy, whether they voted for them or not.
70% of MPs represent a constituancy that mathematically voted to leave the EU.
They are not honouring their electorate and will pay the price at the next election.
Grieve has already been told by his local party that it's unlikley he'll be asked to stand again.
Expect many more.

Sad day

[Gill W]

A sad day? they've indicated that they don't want to push the country off a cliff - in normal circumstances that would be something most people would be pleased about. But nothing about Brexit is normal.

I personally feel pleased about how today has gone, but nothing has really changed yet - we'll have to wait and see what happens next

[Jack Staff]

MPs are elected too represent the people of their constituancy, whether they voted for them or not.
70% of MPs represent a constituancy that mathematically voted to leave the EU.

Which constituencies are they now?

I can make it easier for you ....
https://www.bestforbritain.org/map

But that is funded by Soros, so you won't use that information.

The 'will of the people' has changed. If you say it hasn't, then you will have no problem with another vote.

Preferably we let our elected representatives revoke Article 50 and put this whole sorry escapade to bed.

[Jack Staff]

So it turns out that government whip Mike Freer will be allowed to remain a government whip
despite breaking the three line whip he just imposed on himself.
... in order to vote against a motion, which was brought forward by his own prime minister,
which she says she agrees with, but told her party to oppose.

More as we get it.
{Adam Bienkov}

[Mervyn and Trish]

My predictions are coming true one by one.

They've voted no deal off the table removing the only leverage we had. But it is the default position unless a deal is done. The EU say there is no other deal and after tonight there's no pressure to change that.

They are not obliged to agree to an extension. And why should they? They have nothing to lose now.

The only remaining decision in our own hands is to revoke Article 50.

Then the government falls.

And with every person who voted leave angry at the Tories for not delivering it Corbyn wins a landslide.

Then his economic lunacy delivers such destruction to the economy you'll all be wishing for the comparative nirvana of no deal.

Then the riots begin.

[Jack Staff]

... Corbyn wins a landslide.

He has alienated 48.1% of the electorate. Magic Grandad is unelectable.

Then his economic lunacy delivers such destruction to the economy you'll all be wishing for the comparative nirvana of no deal.

Tories have already done that. It will take a while for the repercussions of Brexit (even if we revoke now) to become clear.

Then the riots begin.

That is probably the outcome of this mess, whatever happens next.

[Mervyn and Trish]

He has alienated 48.1% of the electorate.

Which leaves 51.9%.

Since you need less than 40% of the electorate to win a majority, like I said, a landslide.

[Jack Staff]

He has alienated 48.1% of the electorate.

Which leaves 51.9%.

Since you need less than 40% of the electorate to win a majority, like I said, a landslide.

I didn't have you down as a Corbyn supporter, so I wonder where you think the votes are going to come from.
Labour are remain. Corbyn is a Quitter.
This is not the 1970's. No longer left/right. Nowadays it is right/wrong.

[towny44]

He has alienated 48.1% of the electorate.

Which leaves 51.9%.

Since you need less than 40% of the electorate to win a majority, like I said, a landslide.

I didn't have you down as a Corbyn supporter, so I wonder where you think the votes are going to come from.
Labour are remain. Corbyn is a Quitter.
This is not the 1970's. No longer left/right. Nowadays it is right/wrong.

The strange thing is that Labour MPs and members seem to be mainly remainers, and yet outside London Labour voters are mainly leavers. I look forward with great interest to seeing what their manifesto might say.

[anniec]

So it turns out that government whip Mike Freer will be allowed to remain a government whip
despite breaking the three line whip he just imposed on himself.
... in order to vote against a motion, which was brought forward by his own prime minister,
which she says she agrees with, but told her party to oppose.

More as we get it.
{Adam Bienkov}

He didn't. He was paired for the vote.

[barney]

The general consensus seems to be that May will have another go with her deal. ??? Maybe third time lucky?

[barney]

Which leaves 51.9%.

Since you need less than 40% of the electorate to win a majority, like I said, a landslide.

I didn't have you down as a Corbyn supporter, so I wonder where you think the votes are going to come from.
Labour are remain. Corbyn is a Quitter.
This is not the 1970's. No longer left/right. Nowadays it is right/wrong.

The strange thing is that Labour MPs and members seem to be mainly remainers, and yet outside London Labour voters are mainly leavers. I look forward with great interest to seeing what their manifesto might say.

Labour voters are clearly not all remain. 63% of Labour seats voted to leave. Another inconvenient fact in the argument. Maybe some have switched but no on really knows

[johnds]

The general consensus seems to be that May will have another go with her deal. ??? Maybe third time lucky?

Seems like Bercow might not allow to do it

[towny44]

The general consensus seems to be that May will have another go with her deal. ??? Maybe third time lucky?

Seems like Bercow might not allow to do it

He'd better watch out, Theresa has shown she is a bit like Rocky when floored she gets right back up and starts slinging punches again.

[Mervyn and Trish]

He has alienated 48.1% of the electorate.

Which leaves 51.9%.

Since you need less than 40% of the electorate to win a majority, like I said, a landslide.

I didn't have you down as a Corbyn supporter, so I wonder where you think the votes are going to come from.
Labour are remain. Corbyn is a Quitter.
This is not the 1970's. No longer left/right. Nowadays it is right/wrong.

I'm not a Corbyn supporter. I'm a floating voter and will never under any circumstance vote for him. But your own figures tell the story. And if the Tories fail to deliver Brexit as they promised they will be out of power for a decade.

[Manoverboard]

First of all a ' No Deal ' is NOT off the table.

Members registered their objection to the idea but it will take an Act of Parliament to come into effect.

Secondly … I do NOT accept that TM's deal is dead.

At the ' eleventh ' hour the EU will agree to a legally binding amendment regarding the backstop and the House will vote for the third time but on this occasion it will be carried.

It's blindingly obvious because there is no other option that will be accepted by the majority of the House.

[Onelife]

First of all a ' No Deal ' is NOT off the table.

Members registered their objection to the idea but it will take an Act of Parliament to come into effect.

Secondly … I do NOT accept that TM's deal is dead.

At the ' eleventh ' hour the EU will agree to a legally binding amendment regarding the backstop and the House will vote for the third time but on this occasion it will be carried.

It's blindingly obvious because there is no other option that will be accepted by the majority of the House.

I'm hoping you are right Mob....one thing that should help concentrate minds is that Tusk is whipping up a consensus among EU members that they will only agree to a long extension should we seek an extension…another puppet on a string scenario awaits

Remainers should be bowing their heads in shame for what they have done to our country.