Current Affairs

[Happydays]

Seems rather paradoxical to me as well, but if that is what the Scots want then I say let the SNP have their wish. No point in hanging on to a nation whose people don't want to be there.

This is not what the nation voted for we voted to remain part of the UK it's the SNP who will do and say anything to get another referendum they want independence come what may. They have a very limited view on everything!! We can't understand the mentality of the hard SNP why they would want independence but stay in the EU beggars belief As for oil that's never mentioned now
Shall stop now as it doesm't do my blood pressure any good

I see parallels between what is happening in Scotland and what is happening in UK.
The Scots had a referendum and voted to stay in the UK.
The UK had a referendum and voted to leave the EU.
In both instances there are those who are hell bent on overturning the results, I hope you didn't misunderstand me HappyDays. Whatever the people of Scotland decide that should be the end of it but as long as the SNP are in power I doubt it ever will be. Some Scots are living in the past and are still banging on about Edward's army!!!!

Don't I know it
you're right the SNP shall never accept that the majority didn't want independence just as remainers won't accept we voted to leave!
What have they got in common that's right people want to ignore how I voted.... Must be my fault

[Happydays]

Seems rather paradoxical to me as well, but if that is what the Scots want then I say let the SNP have their wish. No point in hanging on to a nation whose people don't want to be there.

This is not what the nation voted for we voted to remain part of the UK it's the SNP who will do and say anything to get another referendum they want independence come what may. They have a very limited view on everything!! We can't understand the mentality of the hard SNP why they would want independence but stay in the EU beggars belief As for oil that's never mentioned now
Shall stop now as it doesm't do my blood pressure any good

What do you think will be the impact of Unionist Boris refusing to allow another referendum, will this be seen as a positive or negative action by the majority of Scots.

For me it would be positive!!I
But the SNP shall never "give up" they only have one thing on their agenda at any cost!
Everything they do ends in mayhem, schools, NHS and police are going down hill fast. Now they're wanting an investigation about drug deaths if theirs silly plans had worked it wouldn't have been parliaments fault then

[barney]

As I always say. It is easy when in opposition but very much more difficult when you have to deliver.

Just look at the Liberal Hypocrats.

Telling everyone for years what they would do and when they got the chance, did nothing.

Their two leadership contenders both lost their seats in 2015 but regained in 2017 as did the previous leader.

Confidence?
Not from me.

[Stephen]

The waffling buffoon Boris gets top job......god help us.

[Manoverboard]

Hoo-Rah for Bojo

[barney]

I wouldn't bother unpacking if I was him.
A GE is on the cards and quite soon.

[towny44]

It will certainly be an interesting next 3 months.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Too right. By the end of October we'll be out of the EU or Boris will be out of Downing Street.

Brexit. Or Boxit?

[Stephen]

Both with any luck.

[Stephen]

Good speech I thought. Now let's see if he can deliver.

[oldbluefox]

I thought so too but now the pudding is in the eating. I doubt he will be the pushover that TM was in Brussels and he will come up with a solution to the Brexit situation. If he succeeds in that he will have rescued the Tory party as we know it. I will also be interested to see what reforms he comes up with for domestic policy, education, police, NHS etc.
Interesting times ahead.

[Gill W]

The speech promised everything to everybody, but was naturally short on substance and long on waffle


He's got three months to do Brexit, so he'd better come up with detail pretty damn sharpish.

[towny44]

The speech promised everything to everybody, but was naturally short on substance and long on waffle


He's got three months to do Brexit, so he'd better come up with detail pretty damn sharpish.

No emoji Gill so I assume you are naive enough to always believe everything a politician says, that perhaps explains why you're always so hot under the collar about political comments.

[Gill W]

The speech promised everything to everybody, but was naturally short on substance and long on waffle


He's got three months to do Brexit, so he'd better come up with detail pretty damn sharpish.

No emoji Gill so I assume you are naive enough to always believe everything a politician says, that perhaps explains why you're always so hot under the collar about political comments.

Assume what you like.

But it's not me who's been taken in by this lying charlatan

[towny44]

The speech promised everything to everybody, but was naturally short on substance and long on waffle


He's got three months to do Brexit, so he'd better come up with detail pretty damn sharpish.

No emoji Gill so I assume you are naive enough to always believe everything a politician says, that perhaps explains why you're always so hot under the collar about political comments.

Assume what you like.

But it's not me who's been taken in by this lying charlatan

So which politician do you believe in Gill?

[Gill W]

Right now?

None of them, really

[towny44]

Right now?

None of them, really

Not even Jo Swinson?

[Manoverboard]

Interesting that Boris has chosen Michael Gove as his ' Fixer ' … if he doesn't fix ' it ' he will presumably be chopped.

[oldbluefox]

Right now?

None of them, really

So you would have been unhappy no matter who was elected.

[barney]

Many are now politically homeless.

As both major parties have lurched to the extremes, there should be space in the middle.
Soubry and Chuka took a punt that they could fill the gap. They miscalculated.

The Liberal Hypocrats are gambling on Swinson to elevate them.
I find her totally uninspiring but she's the best they've got.
The next GE depends entirely on Brexit.
Get it done and the Tories will win.
Fail and we will end up with a four way split.

Then.......... Who knows?

[Gill W]

Right now?

None of them, really

Not even Jo Swinson?

Why would I ?

She’s new to her current role.

I prefer to reserve judgement.

[Gill W]

Right now?

None of them, really

So you would have been unhappy no matter who was elected.

Such is the sorry state of British politics

[barney]

I must admire their gall.
During the local elections, I had a knock on the door by a Libdem candidate.

I asked how she could reconcile the anti democratic stance of the brexit result given that they had the word democrat on their title

It was because Leave lied and people didn't know what they were voting for.
I asked if she would like to chuck xenophobes and racists into to it and go for a clean sweep.

She did laugh to be fair and left on good terms.

I think that they will go back to obscurity once brexit is settled, one way or another.

[david63]

I have no time at all for Jo Swinson after hearing her going on last week about !I will stop Brexit". Now I have no problem with her holding that view, I have no problem with that being the Lib Dems policy but where I do take issue is that she is an elected member of Parliament who have been told by the British public to deliver Brexit - so get on and do as you have been told or get off the gravy train.

I noticed yesterday that Mrs Crankies henchman (Ian Blackford) tried (with a degree of success) to make a fool of himself by saying that Boris did not have a mandate from the public to be PM and should call a GE as soon as possible. Does he not know how the system works in this country and that we do not elect a PM?

[barney]

Did you see they perpetually offended protesters in London with placards saying Johnson is not my PM.

Errr! I've got a bit of shock news for them.....

Anyone with catchup, I recommend a programme called How the middle class have ruined Britain.
It was on BBC 2.

Highlights the hypocrisy of so many in this country.
The liberals are not quite as liberal as they like to project