The obvious problem with another national lockdown is ..... then what ?
Lockdown for two weeks, three weeks, four weeks six months, ..... then what ?
As soon as society reopens, it all starts again without a vaccine.
I must admit that Mrs B said this morning that she’s been so busy since reopening on 23rd June that she could do with a couple of weeks off as it’s been just her at the shop.
She had Sunday and Monday off for goodness sake.
What’s wrong with these people
We'll be in a better position to roll out the traffic light system which should allow Torrington to be clear of infections which should facilitate a 7 day working week......sounds like Mrs B has been slacking Barney.
We'll have the infections falling instead of rising at alarming levels...we'll have time to put feet on the ground...localised track and trash systems.... we'll be in a better position to cope with an influx of any flue related conditions...and the best outcome of all will be that Boris will have been replaced with someone who's up to the job.....He clearly isn't. 1
For those in favour of Keir Stamers circuit breaker, I would ask them what good would a 2-3 week lockdown be, it took us about 3 months last time to get the infection rate under control, before we started the slow process of getting the economy restarted in little baby steps, which took a further 2 months at least.
Knowing this, what sort of impact do they think even a 3 week lockdown would have on the infection rate, and how quickly do they envisage it would be back to concerning levels once more, with the scientists demanding another circuit break.
I do despair that anyone should be hoodwinked into thinking that anything other than complete observance of the regimes that the govt. have been proposing since the beginning of this pandemic, will be successful in bringing it under control, and enabling us to co-exist with Covid19 until we have a viable vaccine.
Possibly my other idea of compulsory euthanasia for rule breakers might be just the incentive that's needed.
Hi John,
I'm not quite sure what you are advocating other than sticking with Boris's " let's wait as see" traffic light system?
The obvious way forward is to have a 2/3 three full lockdown followed by a well policed traffic light system.
I see Liverpool were out partying again last night.....time to bring in the army with on the spot fines.
Never mind on the spot fines.....tear gas and baton rounds,followed with water cannon spraying foul liquids. bug*er their human rights.
You need to man up a bit Screwy.....It sounds like you're going a bit soft on them
I agree with you he has wasted what it took them 3 months to achieve.
At least this time the government lackies can't try to rewrite history and cower behind the word 'hindsight'. The advice for several weeks has been to lockdown for a short period to block the spread and get the R number under control ... exactly what Johnson said he would do with his 5 tier system. All he has done is come out with a new 3-tier system and new sound bites. This government is good for a sound bite ... little else though.
I think he still can save the Christmas period ... the time when some businesses do up to 60% of their annual trading. But he has to stop bumbling about like a buffoon and take decisive action, instead of prevaricating and pandering to a precious minority.
Back in May, I suggested on this very board that they’d soon disregard their 5 tier Covid alert system and the R number. Although this was treated by much skepticism on this board, I don’t think I was far wrong.
They never really adhered to their 5 tier system - they started opening up the country while we were still at level 4, and we should be back at level 4 now, with a full lockdown, if they hadn’t chucked their own system out of the window.
I remember your posts and at the time remember thinking that, sadly, you are most probably correct. Johnson never has a plan, he just wings it from day-to-day changing as the wind takes him - he probably calls it responding to changing conditions (some seem to think that is better than have a researched thought out plan).
You are right about the 5 tier system, it went out the window on day - the cynic in me says it was to protect a certain SPAD with dodgy eyesight that was grabbing headlines.
I believe he's been in hospital. And if you think I'm venturing up North, you can thing again.
Sir Merv lives in the Midlands I'll have you know and he pops in for a look see from time to time
In spite of all his faults I doubt he will be unduly tempted to comment on the cheap point scoring, nit picking one sided know it all postings from the usual suspects on this Topic but he will be most welcome if he does.
.That's still North to me.
I distinctly remember him saying that he was going into hospital for a small procedure which I assumed was why he hasn't been on the forum lately, but perhaps you are better informed Moby.
Norf is Norf and always will be but interestly his abode is, I would guess, a tad south of the mid point of England.
I suspect that may be so but it will be Sir Merv who updates you in this instance
I believe he's been in hospital. And if you think I'm venturing up North, you can thing again.
Sir Merv lives in the Midlands I'll have you know and he pops in for a look see from time to time
In spite of all his faults I doubt he will be unduly tempted to comment on the cheap point scoring, nit picking one sided know it all postings from the usual suspects on this Topic but he will be most welcome if he does.
That's still North to me.
I distinctly remember him saying that he was going into hospital for a small procedure which I assumed was why he hasn't been on the forum lately, but perhaps you are better informed Moby.
I'm sure he will. My original response was to Onelifes post #6928
Sir Merv lives in the Midlands I'll have you know and he pops in for a look see from time to time
In spite of all his faults I doubt he will be unduly tempted to comment on the cheap point scoring, nit picking one sided know it all postings from the usual suspects on this Topic but he will be most welcome if he does.
That's still North to me.
I distinctly remember him saying that he was going into hospital for a small procedure which I assumed was why he hasn't been on the forum lately, but perhaps you are better informed Moby.
I'm sure he will. My original response was to Onelifes post #6928
I've just sent him a get well card....and some chocolates
I distinctly remember him saying that he was going into hospital for a small procedure which I assumed was why he hasn't been on the forum lately, but perhaps you are better informed Moby.
I'm sure he will. My original response was to Onelifes post #6928
I've just sent him a get well card....and some chocolates
Still ticking. My small procedure turned out to be rather larger than first thought but I am well on the mend. Update coming shortly though it may be on a lighter thread than this one. As my life flashed before my eyes I decided even if I have another 20 years left (which hopefully I may do) life is too short to spend it arguing about things we actually know s@d all about and on which we have all formed our views and will never change them. So I will be avoiding pointless slanging matches and sticking to the fun stuff. In the meantime thank you for the choccies tip off. I have alerted Porton Down who have men in biohazard suits sifting my incoming mail.....
life is too short to spend it arguing about things we actually know s@d all about and on which we have all formed our views and will never change them. So I will be avoiding pointless slanging matches
Couldn't agree more............... Much of the time I can't be bothered so I leave it to the experts.
Sounds like you have experienced Keefy's chocolates before.
Still ticking. My small procedure turned out to be rather larger than first thought but I am well on the mend. Update coming shortly though it may be on a lighter thread than this one. As my life flashed before my eyes I decided even if I have another 20 years left (which hopefully I may do) life is too short to spend it arguing about things we actually know s@d all about and on which we have all formed our views and will never change them. So I will be avoiding pointless slanging matches and sticking to the fun stuff. In the meantime thank you for the choccies tip off. I have alerted Porton Down who have men in biohazard suits sifting my incoming mail.....
I look forward to your blow by blow account of your hospitalisation Merv, but please do make it a little lighter content than the doom merchants on here.
Still ticking. My small procedure turned out to be rather larger than first thought but I am well on the mend. Update coming shortly though it may be on a lighter thread than this one. As my life flashed before my eyes I decided even if I have another 20 years left (which hopefully I may do) life is too short to spend it arguing about things we actually know s@d all about and on which we have all formed our views and will never change them. So I will be avoiding pointless slanging matches and sticking to the fun stuff. In the meantime thank you for the choccies tip off. I have alerted Porton Down who have men in biohazard suits sifting my incoming mail.....
Seems the Welsh have come to their senses by keeping out ' the infected ones ' ... it says here
And how is this to be enforced? Border posts on every road into Wales? Carry proof of residence?
Sounds about as useful as a chocolate teapot
It'll be a doddle ... line the border crossings where it says Welcome to Wales ( ) with sheep and caravans like they usually do in the summer months .... job done
Still ticking. My small procedure turned out to be rather larger than first thought but I am well on the mend. Update coming shortly though it may be on a lighter thread than this one. As my life flashed before my eyes I decided even if I have another 20 years left (which hopefully I may do) life is too short to spend it arguing about things we actually know s@d all about and on which we have all formed our views and will never change them. So I will be avoiding pointless slanging matches and sticking to the fun stuff. In the meantime thank you for the choccies tip off. I have alerted Porton Down who have men in biohazard suits sifting my incoming mail.....
That'll teach you to staple your money belt to yourself
Welcome back Merv
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I've just seen this from someone who is normally reliable, so I will assume that the adding up is correct.
The UK reported 117396 new coronavirus cases for the whole of September.
So far in October the new infection figure is 201385. Even if infections continue at the same rate, we'd be over 400000 by the end of the month. But growth is accelerating, so the potential figure for the end of the month is alarming.
If this doesn't concentrate the minds of the powers that be, nothing will
I've just seen this from someone who is normally reliable, so I will assume that the adding up is correct.
The UK reported 117396 new coronavirus cases for the whole of September.
So far in October the new infection figure is 201385. Even if infections continue at the same rate, we'd be over 400000 by the end of the month. But growth is accelerating, so the potential figure for the end of the month is alarming.
If this doesn't concentrate the minds of the powers that be, nothing will
Ouch, I haven't read the figures for a few days.
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I am not convinced that is a good idea (especially in the first 3 weeks of December) - the online retailers would love it but a forced lockdown in the lead up to Christmas could totally decimate the High Street, many of whom are depending on the Christmas shoppers to make revenue. I still feel doing it now in the hope of having more freedom in the lead up to Christmas would be better (and then maybe another reset in the new year).
In other news it looks like we are going back into lockdown (albeit not quite as strict as before). There is no doubt that is going to be the death-knell for some businesses - very sad!
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