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Current Affairs
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david63
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Re: Current Affairs
Today's sound-bite on the news just before Boris's briefing "we are now on a negative downward trend"
When I went to school two negatives made a positive so that would mean the the trend is upwards -yes?
When I went to school two negatives made a positive so that would mean the the trend is upwards -yes?
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Bensham33
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Kendhni
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Re: Current Affairs
Obviously you are looking at it from a maths point of view but if you look at it from a grammatical point of view then it should have readdavid63 wrote: 15 Feb 2021, 18:44Today's sound-bite on the news just before Boris's briefing "we are now on a negative downward trend"![]()
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When I went to school two negatives made a positive so that would mean the the trend is upwards -yes?
"we are now on a negative, downward trend"
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towny44
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Re: Current Affairs
It's all down to that Comma Chameleon".Kendhni wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 07:39Obviously you are looking at it from a maths point of view but if you look at it from a grammatical point of view then it should have readdavid63 wrote: 15 Feb 2021, 18:44Today's sound-bite on the news just before Boris's briefing "we are now on a negative downward trend"![]()
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When I went to school two negatives made a positive so that would mean the the trend is upwards -yes?
"we are now on a negative, downward trend"
John
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david63
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Re: Current Affairs
Can someone please explain why schools in Scotland can open with less than a week's notice but schools in England need at least two weeks notice before they can re-open, even though most have been partially open throughout the lockdown.
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towny44
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Maybe Scotland is too cold for left wing teachers union activists????david63 wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 18:49Can someone please explain why schools in Scotland can open with less than a week's notice but schools in England need at least two weeks notice before they can re-open, even though most have been partially open throughout the lockdown.
John
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Current Affairs
Mrs Krankie was reported as saying (of the travel restrictions) that it would be much easier if all the 4 nations had the same rules.
Yes it would. So does it not occur to her to follow the UK government?
Of course not. As with Brexit she expects the Scottie tail to wag the English dog!
Yes it would. So does it not occur to her to follow the UK government?
Of course not. As with Brexit she expects the Scottie tail to wag the English dog!
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Ray B
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Re: Current Affairs
Exactly Merv, I think she tries to get things out ahead of Boris to maybe make herself look good.
Don't worry, be happy
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Manoverboard
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Current Affairs
The pressure for Boris to release lockdown mounts. While critics are getting ready to scream "too early" if he does. Personally I'd rather have a few weeks longer while we're here than risk another start/stop.
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Stephen
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Re: Current Affairs
Me too.
We don't want the same mistake made like Christmas.
We don't want the same mistake made like Christmas.
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Kendhni
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Re: Current Affairs
Johnson has not exactly surrounded himself in glory over his handling of the first lock down which was put in place too late (ignoring the advice he was being given) and lifted too early (totally ignoring the traffic light system he had announced). He also delayed going into the second lock down (advised since mid September) - however I am hoping he has finally learned the lessons and plays this one on the cautious side. Credit where it is due though he has done well with the vaccination program.
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screwy
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Re: Current Affairs
I’ll e happy if the only thing he opens are the Charity shops.! We still have a house full of goods to take from the In Laws before it goes on the market.
Mel
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towny44
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Strange you should say the former, it's the same oft repeated script that all labour politicians keep repeating. But I routinely watched the briefings and do not remember any SAGE representative making a claim that Boris was acting too slowly, lots of comments in the media and after a while from Labour. That all seems to support Boris's claim to follow the science.Kendhni wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 17:09Johnson has not exactly surrounded himself in glory over his handling of the first lock down which was put in place too late (ignoring the advice he was being given) and lifted too early (totally ignoring the traffic light system he had announced). He also delayed going into the second lock down (advised since mid September) - however I am hoping he has finally learned the lessons and plays this one on the cautious side. Credit where it is due though he has done well with the vaccination program.
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david63
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Re: Current Affairs
That is all conjecture as there is no benchmark to measure it against.Kendhni wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 17:09Johnson has not exactly surrounded himself in glory over his handling of the first lock down which was put in place too late (ignoring the advice he was being given) and lifted too early (totally ignoring the traffic light system he had announced). He also delayed going into the second lock down (advised since mid September)
You may well be right but we will never know that, but equally the opposite argument may also be valid (went into lockdown too soon and cane out too late) again we will never know - unless we all want to treat this as a rehearsal for another pandemic!
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Onelife
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Re: Current Affairs
Congratulations NASA....One small step for mankind, one giant leap for our future existence. 
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Kendhni
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Re: Current Affairs
The evidence is there and despite any attempts the one thing Johnson or anyone else will not be able to do is rewrite history or cower behind weasily fallacious excuses like 'hindsight'.david63 wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 18:56That is all conjecture as there is no benchmark to measure it against.Kendhni wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 17:09Johnson has not exactly surrounded himself in glory over his handling of the first lock down which was put in place too late (ignoring the advice he was being given) and lifted too early (totally ignoring the traffic light system he had announced). He also delayed going into the second lock down (advised since mid September)
You may well be right but we will never know that, but equally the opposite argument may also be valid (went into lockdown too soon and cane out too late) again we will never know - unless we all want to treat this as a rehearsal for another pandemic!
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towny44
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Re: Current Affairs
Ken, you do talk some argumentative rubbish.Kendhni wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 21:05The evidence is there and despite any attempts the one thing Johnson or anyone else will not be able to do is rewrite history or cower behind weasily fallacious words like 'hindsight'.david63 wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 18:56That is all conjecture as there is no benchmark to measure it against.Kendhni wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 17:09Johnson has not exactly surrounded himself in glory over his handling of the first lock down which was put in place too late (ignoring the advice he was being given) and lifted too early (totally ignoring the traffic light system he had announced). He also delayed going into the second lock down (advised since mid September)
You may well be right but we will never know that, but equally the opposite argument may also be valid (went into lockdown too soon and cane out too late) again we will never know - unless we all want to treat this as a rehearsal for another pandemic!
John
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david63
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Re: Current Affairs
There cannot be any "evidence" all that there can be on record is the opinion of some "experts"
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oldbluefox
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Re: Current Affairs
It all depends on which expert you listen to. It is only after the event you find out who got it right after which the know alls can jump on the bandwagon.
I was taught to be cautious
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Onelife
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A very fair assessment of where we’ve been and where we are going.Kendhni wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 17:09Johnson has not exactly surrounded himself in glory over his handling of the first lock down which was put in place too late (ignoring the advice he was being given) and lifted too early (totally ignoring the traffic light system he had announced). He also delayed going into the second lock down (advised since mid September) - however I am hoping he has finally learned the lessons and plays this one on the cautious side. Credit where it is due though he has done well with the vaccination program.
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Kendhni
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Indeed, the problem is some people are more invested in the lies of 'who' said or did, rather than the reality of 'what' was said or done. It is known as ostrich syndrome totally dependent on confirmation bias or In absentia lucis, Tenebrae vincunt.Onelife wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 22:57A very fair assessment of where we’ve been and where we are going.Kendhni wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 17:09Johnson has not exactly surrounded himself in glory over his handling of the first lock down which was put in place too late (ignoring the advice he was being given) and lifted too early (totally ignoring the traffic light system he had announced). He also delayed going into the second lock down (advised since mid September) - however I am hoping he has finally learned the lessons and plays this one on the cautious side. Credit where it is due though he has done well with the vaccination program.
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Stephen
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Kendhni wrote: 19 Feb 2021, 06:58Indeed, the problem is some people are more invested in the lies of 'who' said or did, rather than the reality of 'what' was said or done. It is known as ostrich syndrome totally dependent on confirmation bias or In absentia lucis, Tenebrae vincunt.Onelife wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 22:57A very fair assessment of where we’ve been and where we are going.Kendhni wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 17:09Johnson has not exactly surrounded himself in glory over his handling of the first lock down which was put in place too late (ignoring the advice he was being given) and lifted too early (totally ignoring the traffic light system he had announced). He also delayed going into the second lock down (advised since mid September) - however I am hoping he has finally learned the lessons and plays this one on the cautious side. Credit where it is due though he has done well with the vaccination program.
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Manoverboard
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A complete waste of money in my opinionOnelife wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 21:02Congratulations NASA....One small step for mankind, one giant leap for our future existence.![]()
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