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[Stephen]

Could it have been Screwy ?

Grass

[towny44]

Could it have been Screwy ?

Grass

I didn't realise the 5th was such a snotty amendment...............oops better be careful someone might be watching!!!!

[screwy]

I’m saying nothing...

[oldbluefox]

The idea of a 6pm curfew for men must be one of the daftest ideas even for a Green Lord. Does she assume that from 6pm all men will disappear to their homes until the re-emerge the next morning. Of course not.
However there is a tendency to over react to this poor girl's murder especially as it is a police officer who may have done it. Rather than brandishing all men as suspects we should all be aware of our own surroundings and consider our own safety. There are certain points in this story, and in others, where I query whether I would have done the same, whether they had made a wise choice. It is easy to make a better choice in hindsight but there are precautions we can all make to reduce the chances of conflict eg is the wearing of headphones if out alone away from the crowds a good idea? You should be able to do it but there are some odd people out there and you never know what they have been smoking, drinking, inhaling or injecting.
I agree with OL that CCTV would be a bonus if we could afford to install or man it and get over the snowflakes who are concerned it impinges on our civil liberties.

[david63]

At least common sense has prevailed over the "vigil" and the High court have dismissed the legal challenge to hold it despite it being against Covid laws.

Why do some think that their cause should be an exception to the law? It is illegal to hold a gathering no matter how sincere it is - end of

[oldbluefox]

They think the virus knows it's a vigil so they'll be immune.

[Manoverboard]

Could it have been Screwy ?

Grass

I didn't realise the 5th was such a snotty amendment...............oops better be careful someone might be watching!!!!

Waiting to pounce you mean

[Onelife]

Onelife, if we agree not to agree would that be classed as agreeing with you?

Sorry Ray…I didn’t notice your post.

I think that’s a fair compromise

[Mervyn and Trish]

Thank you Davina McColl for acknowledging that not all men are racists and murderers. This is a tragic case but demonising all men doesn't help anyone. Nor does holding vigils. The vast majority of us respect and would not dream of attacking a woman, or anyone else. The tiny minority who would will not take any notice of a vigil. Much the same as all the demos around Black Lives Matter. A US cop killing a black criminal is wrong but does not make us all racists. The hard core who are will not change however many activists go down on one knee at every opportunity.

[Happydays]

I Agree with you, I have a husband and son and other male (am I allowed to say that) relatives and I have every confidence that they wouldn't harm anyone.
Saying to have a curfew for men is a stupid thing to say and doesn't help anyone.... That would mean I can't go out with my husband after 6pm get real, all these silly comments do is devide people.
I think it's because a police officer has been charged but you get good and bad in all professions remember Harold Shipman we didn't stop going to the doctors

[johnds]

The accused had only been in the police service for three years
What was he doing before ? Military ?

[Stephen]

The accused had only been in the police service for three years
What was he doing before ? Military ?

According to the media he was in the army territorials before the police service

[david63]

The accused had only been in the police service for three years

I'm surprised that he was an armed officer with only three years service - there must be some military background.

It would appear though that he is quite accident prone!

I'm sure that Screwy will be able to confirm that he will be treated impartially when in prison!!

[Stephen]

The accused had only been in the police service for three years

I'm surprised that he was an armed officer with only three years service - there must be some military background.

It would appear though that he is quite accident prone!

I'm sure that Screwy will be able to confirm that he will be treated impartially when in prison!!

Once is just careless, twice sounds like a suicide attempt. I fully understand people’s feelings and I’m not condoning his actions for one minute for what he has done, but he obviously has mental issues.

[david63]

he obviously has mental issues.

That is what I am thinking and if ex-military then that may be a contributing factor

[Onelife]

The accused had only been in the police service for three years

I'm surprised that he was an armed officer with only three years service - there must be some military background.

It would appear though that he is quite accident prone!

I'm sure that Screwy will be able to confirm that he will be treated impartially when in prison!!

Once is just careless, twice sounds like a suicide attempt. I fully understand people’s feelings and I’m not condoning his actions for one minute for what he has done, but he obviously has mental issues.

I agree Stephen…self-inflicted headbanging.

Time will tell as to his mental state but you can be sure his defence will argue that he has some. I personally would like to see him thrown feet first under a gang mower.

[screwy]

The accused had only been in the police service for three years

I'm surprised that he was an armed officer with only three years service - there must be some military background.

It would appear though that he is quite accident prone!

I'm sure that Screwy will be able to confirm that he will be treated impartially when in prison!!

Indeed he will certainly by the staff. He will get a rough ride from the other Cons though. He will initially spend time on suicide watch,lots of extra payments for staff, when I finished it was £17 an hour but it’s boring and you have to be vigilant, don’t want him dying on your watch.Because of his job he will be segregated for a long time. I can only recall locking up 2 ex Bobbies but they weren’t high profile and they tend to get moved around.

[Stephen]

This is the sort of moronic society we have become. No respect for authority and other people as long as they get their message over for someone that they don’t even know. Sadly people are being murdered every day somewhere in the world, are they going to attend a vigil for all of them, of course not. The police should have got a water cannon out and sprayed the lot of them.

As usual the nanny state politicians in their ivory towers are questioning the police and they’re actions.

Sarah Everard: Met criticised over Clapham vigil policing https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56389824

[david63]

I agree Stephen.

The police told them they could not hold the vigil. The High Court told them that the police were right and they could not hold the vigil. So what do they do - hold the vigil and then complain because the police, frightful, dispersed the illegal vigil. OK we were not there and don't know the full facts as to who was to blame but the bottom line is that they should not have been there.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I wasn't there either. But as with the Black Lives Matter protests it is likely this one attracted the anarchist rent a mob with no interest in the issue but determined to misbehave, provoke a police reaction and post one sided coverage on social media. I'll reserve judgement until a proper review has been completed. But in the meantime whatever the rights and wrongs of the police handling it was stupid of those attending to mark the death of one woman in tragic circumstances by putting the lives of hundreds more at risk from Covid.

[Onelife]

Whilst I agree this vigil shouldn’t have taken place, I can fully understand the frustration they and many other women must feel when they themselves have to choose a self-imposed night time curfew in order to feel safe out on the streets.

[oldbluefox]

Whilst I agree this vigil shouldn’t have taken place, I can fully understand the frustration they and many other women must feel when they themselves have to choose a self-imposed night time curfew in order to feel safe out on the streets.

But what they did last night will not make any difference to the situation. I just hope the number of cases of Covid does not rise as a consequence of what they did.

[Onelife]

Whilst I agree this vigil shouldn’t have taken place, I can fully understand the frustration they and many other women must feel when they themselves have to choose a self-imposed night time curfew in order to feel safe out on the streets.

But what they did last night will not make any difference to the situation. I just hope the number of cases of Covid does not rise as a consequence of what they did.

It already has made a difference…. we are talking about it. Only through awareness does anything change.

[Stephen]

Whilst I agree this vigil shouldn’t have taken place, I can fully understand the frustration they and many other women must feel when they themselves have to choose a self-imposed night time curfew in order to feel safe out on the streets.

A little out of context Keith. We are talking one incident, and yes one is one too many. But it’s not as if a marauding mob are going round the country topping women.

[david63]

Whilst I agree this vigil shouldn’t have taken place, I can fully understand the frustration they and many other women must feel when they themselves have to choose a self-imposed night time curfew in order to feel safe out on the streets.

I agree that they shouldn't but there are also many men that do not feel safe on some streets at night.

Everyone should feel safe at all times wherever they are