Current Affairs

[oldbluefox]

Or even 'Stupid Question Snap' from those who ask the same question as somebody else in the same briefing. They may even lay bets on whose will be the daftest question.

[Manoverboard]

A fiver on the lastest daftest question it is then

[Kendhni]

Are there a lot more murders and assaults in the headlines these days? Every time I look at a newsfeed there are always seems to be a new one. Many of them sem to be domestic which could be as a result of COVID?

On the lighter side Obama says he has seen UFO footage.

[Mervyn and Trish]

The BBC and Martin Bashir have rightly been criticised for deception in the run up to his interview with Princess Diana. However I think Earl Spencer is stretching credibility to suggest that led in some way to her death. To my recollection that was caused by a drunken chauffeur employed by the Ritz Hotel in Paris driving at lunatic speeds in a tunnel.

[Onelife]

I didn’t see the connection either but life’s events weren’t kind to Diana…she was duped by her husband, duped by Bashir and used by the Royal firm.

[towny44]

The BBC and Martin Bashir have rightly been criticised for deception in the run up to his interview with Princess Diana. However I think Earl Spencer is stretching credibility to suggest that led in some way to her death. To my recollection that was caused by a drunken chauffeur employed by the Ritz Hotel in Paris driving at lunatic speeds in a tunnel.

I thought he was implying that the interview led her into a downhill spiral of relationships, culminating in her being in the wrong car at the wrong time. Bashires link to her death was the date of Spencers meeting with him.

[towny44]

I didn’t see the connection either but life’s events weren’t kind to Diana…she was duped by her husband, duped by Bashir and used by the Royal firm.

If you have genuine information to support your assertion that she was used by the Royal family, other than tabloid tittle tattle, I am sure we would all like hear it Keith.

[Onelife]

I didn’t see the connection either but life’s events weren’t kind to Diana…she was duped by her husband, duped by Bashir and used by the Royal firm.

If you have genuine information to support your assertion that she was used by the Royal family, other than tabloid tittle tattle, I am sure we would all like hear it Keith.

Heir, let me think about that one…Succession?

[towny44]

I didn’t see the connection either but life’s events weren’t kind to Diana…she was duped by her husband, duped by Bashir and used by the Royal firm.

If you have genuine information to support your assertion that she was used by the Royal family, other than tabloid tittle tattle, I am sure we would all like hear it Keith.

Heir, let me think about that one…Succession?

Not very illuminating.

[Manoverboard]

Diane was wheeled in as a baby machine at a time when the Spencers were flat broke and because she was vain and lacking in intelligence she was prepared to go along with the arrangement.

Just a wild guess of course

[Kendhni]

I didn’t see the connection either but life’s events weren’t kind to Diana…she was duped by her husband, duped by Bashir and used by the Royal firm.

correlation is not causation.
She was a manipulator herself, sneaking out for clandestine liaisons and then manufacturing the BS 'Queen of hearts'.

[Esprit]

She did look fit though!

[Ray B]

I didn’t see the connection either but life’s events weren’t kind to Diana…she was duped by her husband, duped by Bashir and used by the Royal firm.

Her brother didn't open his arms to either when she needed him.

[Bensham33]

A load of fuss over nothing as far as I'm concerned. So what if Bashir used some under hand tactics it happens all the time. Reporters do it, politicians do it and governments do it. Why the wonderful BBC is being criticized over this is beyond me.

[Ray Scully]

The BBC and Martin Bashir have rightly been criticised for deception in the run up to his interview with Princess Diana. However I think Earl Spencer is stretching credibility to suggest that led in some way to her death. To my recollection that was caused by a drunken chauffeur employed by the Ritz Hotel in Paris driving at lunatic speeds in a tunnel.

I am sure not just the Beeb were sitting on this, surely Government and Security services would have been, or become aware of the deception.

[barney]

The BBC and Martin Bashir have rightly been criticised for deception in the run up to his interview with Princess Diana. However I think Earl Spencer is stretching credibility to suggest that led in some way to her death. To my recollection that was caused by a drunken chauffeur employed by the Ritz Hotel in Paris driving at lunatic speeds in a tunnel.

I am sure not just the Beeb were sitting on this, surely Government and Security services would have been, or become aware of the deception.

It’s unlikely that it would have been on the radar of the security service Ray.
They have much bigger fish to fry.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Anyway according to the Daily Express the assassination of Diana was ordered by Prince Philip RIP.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I have to say again I am appalled by the behaviour of Bashir and others in the BBC. Bashir should be stripped of his Baftas and Lord Hall of his peerage.

However, there is some hypocritical nonsense being chucked around.

First everyone seems to have forgotten that Charles was interviewed by Jonathan Dimbleby on ITV 18 months before, an interview in which he admitted he had committed adultery after, he claimed , his marriage had irretrievably broken down. So, much as I respect him, how can Prince William suggest the BBC interview, 18 months after Charles admitted the marriage was dead, contributed to that breakdown?

Does he not think his father publicly admitting to shagging his now step mother and his mother's own admitted affairs had more to do with it?

And what about Earl Spencer? Whatever the veracity of the documents we now know were forged, they were presented to him, not Diana, and it was he who convinced her to do the interview in response to Charles's revelations the previous year.

Did he not see it would be damaging, as he now claims, or is he another master of hindsight? Does he feel guilty because he didn't say " Don't touch it with a barge pole Sis"?

[Mervyn and Trish]

https://www.politics.co.uk/comment/2021 ... t-the-bbc/

[Ray Scully]

I have to say again I am appalled by the behaviour of Bashir and others in the BBC. Bashir should be stripped of his Baftas and Lord Hall of his peerage.

However, there is some hypocritical nonsense being chucked around.

First everyone seems to have forgotten that Charles was interviewed by Jonathan Dimbleby on ITV 18 months before, an interview in which he admitted he had committed adultery after, he claimed , his marriage had irretrievably broken down. So, much as I respect him, how can Prince William suggest the BBC interview, 18 months after Charles admitted the marriage was dead, contributed to that breakdown?

Does he not think his father publicly admitting to shagging his now step mother and his mother's own admitted affairs had more to do with it?

And what about Earl Spencer? Whatever the veracity of the documents we now know were forged, they were presented to him, not Diana, and it was he who convinced her to do the interview in response to Charles's revelations the previous year.

Did he not see it would be damaging, as he now claims, or is he another master of hindsight? Does he feel guilty because he didn't say " Don't touch it with a barge pole Sis"?

Not forgetting the hypocritical press who were using any Diana story they could lay their grubby hands on.

[oldbluefox]

Only half of the stories in the Press or even on TV are based on truth. My experiences are the rest are pure fiction and supposition. Invariably the stories are picked up from (dodgy) local press reports put out on a quiet news day and then embroidered somewhat. Bashir is just another case of dodgy journalism in the hunt to create something spectacular and doing an injustice to those who take their trade more seriously. It's made all the worse by the subsequent actions/inactions of the BBC hierarchy.
From time to time the media organisations overstep the mark as in the cover up of the Savile situation and the intrusion into Cliff Richard's private life amongst others.

If you query local press why they are prepared to sensationalise stories despite the damage they are doing they are happy to admit 'It sells papers'. That is all they care.

[Kendhni]

Only half of the stories in the Press or even on TV are based on truth.

I would disagree I think the vast majority are based on truth but low grade journalism twist the stories to put some sort of spin on them to try to sell their rags. See who can out-adjective the other and who can raise the most indignation from a public that is getting less and less capable of thinking for themselves.

[Kendhni]

I have to say again I am appalled by the behaviour of Bashir and others in the BBC.

I have been appalled by the 'old guard' in the BBC since it became apparent that through their orchestrated complacency, they condoned and turned a blind eye to institutionalised child molestation while protecting the perpetrators within their ranks. What Bashir did was nothing more than minor manipulation of the truth - something that seems to be endemic in todays society.

[oldbluefox]

Only half of the stories in the Press or even on TV are based on truth.

I would disagree I think the vast majority are based on truth but low grade journalism twist the stories to put some sort of spin on them to try to sell their rags. See who can out-adjective the other and who can raise the most indignation from a public that is getting less and less capable of thinking for themselves.

I think we are saying much the same where they take the truth as a kernel and then add their own spin.

Listening to 'Any Answers' on Radio 4 at the moment and a chap who had worked in Rwanda was telling how the BBC had reported on the situation but the report bore little truth to the real situation there.
Similarly we were in Germany when there were two IRA attacks where we lived. The reports on the BBC and in the Press bore little truth to the reality of the situation.

[david63]

Another miss-reporting.

Just over 20 years ago after the break up of the USSR there was a report on the Beeb about food shortages in a village somewhere out in the wilds and it showed empty shelves in the baker's shop with a large queue outside.

Several weeks later I happened to be in that village (on my Russian river cruise) and the truth was that they were queueing whilst waiting for the baker to bake his bread - no shortage at all.