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[oldbluefox]

I don't need anyone, let alone Gill, to lecture me on my moral compass. I'm impressed if she could see where his tongue was.
Not seen the pictures but that takes some doing.

[screwy]

You think so Screwy Born in Aberdeen and privately educated at Robert Gordon's College, Dodds read Philosophy, Politics and Economics as an undergraduate at St Hilda's College, Oxford and subsequently took a master's degree in Social Policy at the University of Edinburgh and a PhD in Government at the London School of Economics. She lectured in Public Policy at King’s College London and Aston University.
a very smart lady methinks

Don’t doubt it for a minute, but she ain’t going to win a beauty contest,think that’s what Towny was getting at.However she could get a contract to model Gargoyles.

Why is it only women you make disparaging remarks about their looks.

There's any number of physically repulsive male MP's - why not slate their looks for a change?

Probably because I have no Homosexual tendencies whatsoever,so I don’t look at men the same as I would look at a female.
However your right,I suppose Dodds and Gove would make a fine pair.

[Ray Scully]

You think so Screwy Born in Aberdeen and privately educated at Robert Gordon's College, Dodds read Philosophy, Politics and Economics as an undergraduate at St Hilda's College, Oxford and subsequently took a master's degree in Social Policy at the University of Edinburgh and a PhD in Government at the London School of Economics. She lectured in Public Policy at King’s College London and Aston University.
a very smart lady methinks

Don’t doubt it for a minute, but she ain’t going to win a beauty contest,think that’s what Towny was getting at.However she could get a contract to model Gargoyles.

Why is it only women you make disparaging remarks about their looks.

There's any number of physically repulsive male MP's - why not slate their looks for a change?

Gill I have long stopped trying to understand misogamy

[towny44]

Don’t doubt it for a minute, but she ain’t going to win a beauty contest,think that’s what Towny was getting at.However she could get a contract to model Gargoyles.

Why is it only women you make disparaging remarks about their looks.

There's any number of physically repulsive male MP's - why not slate their looks for a change?

Gill I have long stopped trying to understand misogamy

I don't think I am a misogynist, who presumably would consider all women repulsive, or maybe just glamorous women, who knows?

[Gill W]

Thank you as ever Gill for your character analysis of anyone who dares to disagree with your opinion of Matt Hancock.

I will not offer any opinion on him. I will however express what is for me a greater concern. Government offices are supposed to be a safe and secure space. That anyone is willing and able to obtain and leak photos from within for the purpose of making political capital appalls me and should be urgently investigated by the security services. If they'll do that what else will they do? One day Labour may occupy those offices. That should concern them mightily more than a cheap shot now.

In other words you appear upset that he was found out, rather than cross about his actual behaviour

You offer opinions about other people (including me), so go on, give your opinion about Hancock and his behaviour, I dare you.

[Gill W]

I don't need anyone, let alone Gill, to lecture me on my moral compass. I'm impressed if she could see where his tongue was.
Not seen the pictures but that takes some doing.

Have a look at the images and see what you think - even better, tell us what you think about his behaviour. Go on, I dare you

[oldbluefox]

Still looking for his tongue. You must have had your magnifying glass out.
Lectures on moral compass, references to misogyny, I think some people need to get a grip.

[Gill W]

Don’t doubt it for a minute, but she ain’t going to win a beauty contest,think that’s what Towny was getting at.However she could get a contract to model Gargoyles.

Why is it only women you make disparaging remarks about their looks.

There's any number of physically repulsive male MP's - why not slate their looks for a change?

Gill I have long stopped trying to understand misogamy

It is very wearisome

[Gill W]

Still looking for his tongue. You must have had your magnifying glass out.
Lectures on moral compass, references to misogyny, I think some people need to get a grip.

I look forward to your opinion on Hancock’s behaviour.

[david63]

OK so Hancock had/is having an affair - nothing new, or even, newsworthy there.

Hancock allegedly broke social distancing rules - so who on here can honestly say, hand on heart, that they have not broken social distancing rules in the last 18 months - I cannot.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Thank you as ever Gill for your character analysis of anyone who dares to disagree with your opinion of Matt Hancock.

I will not offer any opinion on him. I will however express what is for me a greater concern. Government offices are supposed to be a safe and secure space. That anyone is willing and able to obtain and leak photos from within for the purpose of making political capital appalls me and should be urgently investigated by the security services. If they'll do that what else will they do? One day Labour may occupy those offices. That should concern them mightily more than a cheap shot now.

In other words you appear upset that he was found out, rather than cross about his actual behaviour

I specifically said I was not offering an opinion on him. As usual you think you have the right to interpret that in any way you choose. I said I was concerned about the security implications. Since you presume to see in my mind I will similarly assume to look into yours and say you don't give a stuff about security such is your glee to dish the dirt.

[towny44]

Still looking for his tongue. You must have had your magnifying glass out.
Lectures on moral compass, references to misogyny, I think some people need to get a grip.

I look forward to your opinion on Hancock’s behaviour.

Infidelity happens constantly across all sectors of society, I am not prepared to judge other people, especially ones I do not know personally, and I do not subscribe to the view that people in the public eye should behave better just because of their position.

[oldbluefox]

I don't need anyone, let alone Gill, to lecture me on my moral compass. I'm impressed if she could see where his tongue was.
Not seen the pictures but that takes some doing.

Have a look at the images and see what you think - even better, tell us what you think about his behaviour. Go on, I dare you

Gill, I realise you only read what you want to but before daring anybody, and then following up with another post perhaps you would care to look at post #10671 where I gave my opinion. It may not concur with yours but to be honest Hancock's marital affairs are not my business, as neither are yours or anybody else's.
What is of more concern are the security issues that led to the images from a secure area getting out, but obviously it is more titillating for some to surmise where Hancock is putting his tongue.

[oldbluefox]

Following on from the revelations today, if Cummings was to be believed and Boris thought Hancock was hopeless, surely today was the ideal opportunity to get rid of him.

[Gill W]

OK so Hancock had/is having an affair - nothing new, or even, newsworthy there.

Hancock allegedly broke social distancing rules - so who on here can honestly say, hand on heart, that they have not broken social distancing rules in the last 18 months - I cannot.

Not allegedly, he’s apologised for that part.

I feel fairly sure that none of us on here were instrumental in making the rules and then broadcast to the nation asking our fellow citizens adhere to those rules.

Also, I feel reasonably sure that any transgressions by forum members would have been accidental- not blatantly playing tonsil tennis with someone who wasn’t their spouse.

But, hey, adultery, cronyism, hypocrisy - nothing to see here, move along.

[Gill W]

Thank you as ever Gill for your character analysis of anyone who dares to disagree with your opinion of Matt Hancock.

I will not offer any opinion on him. I will however express what is for me a greater concern. Government offices are supposed to be a safe and secure space. That anyone is willing and able to obtain and leak photos from within for the purpose of making political capital appalls me and should be urgently investigated by the security services. If they'll do that what else will they do? One day Labour may occupy those offices. That should concern them mightily more than a cheap shot now.

In other words you appear upset that he was found out, rather than cross about his actual behaviour

I specifically said I was not offering an opinion on him. As usual you think you have the right to interpret that in any way you choose. I said I was concerned about the security implications. Since you presume to see in my mind I will similarly assume to look into yours and say you don't give a stuff about security such is your glee to dish the dirt.

Why won’t you give an opinion on Hancock?

The apparent reluctance forces me to fill in the gaps.

I think the security aspect is an issue, as it was clearly a leak from inside. At first, I thought the leak was mandated from the very top, to try to force Hancock to resign - but not so sure now as Johnson is backing Hancock.

Oh, and the emotion you are detecting from me is not glee - it is despair that no matter how bad their behaviour, no matter how corrupt or morally bankrupt, this government is completely untouchable, and part of the electorate is giving them a free pass by shrugging their shoulders and turning a blind eye.

[Gill W]

Still looking for his tongue. You must have had your magnifying glass out.
Lectures on moral compass, references to misogyny, I think some people need to get a grip.

I look forward to your opinion on Hancock’s behaviour.

Infidelity happens constantly across all sectors of society, I am not prepared to judge other people, especially ones I do not know personally, and I do not subscribe to the view that people in the public eye should behave better just because of their position.

But they are behaving worse than you

[Gill W]

I don't need anyone, let alone Gill, to lecture me on my moral compass. I'm impressed if she could see where his tongue was.
Not seen the pictures but that takes some doing.

Have a look at the images and see what you think - even better, tell us what you think about his behaviour. Go on, I dare you

Gill, I realise you only read what you want to but before daring anybody, and then following up with another post perhaps you would care to look at post #10671 where I gave my opinion. It may not concur with yours but to be honest Hancock's marital affairs are not my business, as neither are yours or anybody else's.
What is of more concern are the security issues that led to the images from a secure area getting out, but obviously it is more titillating for some to surmise where Hancock is putting his tongue.

‘He won’t be the first and he won’t be the last’ is a statement, hardly an opinion.

I realise that some on this forum are going big on the security issue, as it gives them a chance to comment, without criticising Hancock for his cronyism and hypocrisy.



As a general aside, I do have to wonder how bad the behaviour of government ministers has to get before some on this forum would actually admit in public that things aren’t quite right

[Mervyn and Trish]

Why won’t you give an opinion on Hancock?

The apparent reluctance forces me to fill in the gaps.

It is not apparent reluctance. I have stated clearly I am not going to. And you are not forced to fill the gaps.. You choose to do so. It's a shame you're not satisfied stating your own opinion without feeling you need to state mine. On which you frankly haven't a clue.

[towny44]

I look forward to your opinion on Hancock’s behaviour.

Infidelity happens constantly across all sectors of society, I am not prepared to judge other people, especially ones I do not know personally, and I do not subscribe to the view that people in the public eye should behave better just because of their position.

But they are behaving worse than you

You don't know that, and should never judge someone else, unless you know them very well, or you are called for jury service.

[towny44]

Why won’t you give an opinion on Hancock?

The apparent reluctance forces me to fill in the gaps.

It is not apparent reluctance. I have stated clearly I am not going to. And you are not forced to fill the gaps.. You choose to do so. It's a shame you're not satisfied stating your own opinion without feeling you need to state mine. On which you frankly haven't a clue.

Gill, I would also add, why do you always seek to persuade us to agree with your point of view. Although I mainly disagree with yours, I would never seek to change your mind, so please stop insisting that we should agree with you.

[Manoverboard]

One doesn't resign over tittle tattle nor matters of the loin heart

It's not tittle tattle - he's caught on camera with his tongue down her throat and his hand on her a*se.

What has that got to do with anybody else, like I said it's tittle tattle.

[johnds]

It is, but he’s right though.

You think so Screwy Born in Aberdeen and privately educated at Robert Gordon's College, Dodds read Philosophy, Politics and Economics as an undergraduate at St Hilda's College, Oxford and subsequently took a master's degree in Social Policy at the University of Edinburgh and a PhD in Government at the London School of Economics. She lectured in Public Policy at King’s College London and Aston University.
a very smart lady methinks

Has she ever had a real job

[Gill W]

Infidelity happens constantly across all sectors of society, I am not prepared to judge other people, especially ones I do not know personally, and I do not subscribe to the view that people in the public eye should behave better just because of their position.

But they are behaving worse than you

You don't know that, and should never judge someone else, unless you know them very well, or you are called for jury service.

I ‘judged’ you to be a decent bloke, as I’ve interacted with you for several years, and although we haven’t always agreed, I thought you were at heart, a good person.

As you don’t approve, I’ll do the decent thing and withdraw my ‘judgement’

[Gill W]

Why won’t you give an opinion on Hancock?

The apparent reluctance forces me to fill in the gaps.

It is not apparent reluctance. I have stated clearly I am not going to. And you are not forced to fill the gaps.. You choose to do so. It's a shame you're not satisfied stating your own opinion without feeling you need to state mine. On which you frankly haven't a clue.

Fair enough.

I’ll keep my further thoughts about your stance to myself