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Gill W wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 14:05

On the subject of the Ferguson interview, both Keith and Ken had the same take on it as me, and most other people off this forum did too. I think it was only you who thought it was something fully supportive of ‘freedom day’
Is this from another of your mystery polls or yet another of your 'truths'?
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Gill W wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 14:05
We haven’t been in lockdown for months, and I haven’t advocated going back into lockdown.
You may not have been Gill.

Many others have. This has been more prolonged and severe than any other country, except perhaps Ireland. For all those who depend upon mass gatherings such as sporting events, theatres, cinemas, clubs, shows, concerts, Tese past sixteen months have been a nightmare.

But you have been ok so that's all right :)

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RE OBF
No need. I'm not bothered whether they go clubbing or not. All I said was not to be surprised to see the infection rates rise. Not sure where you got the idea from that I was concerned. In fact there only seems to be one on the forum who twitters on about infection rates rising
I'm hardly likely to be surprised by rising infection rates, as I've been saying for weeks that this will happen, backed up by the simple maths
We have a responsibility to keep ourselves safe. The government does not provide a nurse maid service within a nanny state. The government has informed us what to do to keep ourselves safe.
Really?

In the event of flooding you'd be happy for them to tell us to go upstairs, and after that we're on our own?
I don't think you can equate any of these with the relaxing of lockdown.
Yes you can, they are all legal requirements to protect our health and keep us safe. Bit nannyish, but it seems to be a good idea to stop people driving into each other
It is now their responsibility to decide whether to go or not. They know the risks. Don't be surprised if the infection rates go up.
Exactly, so we can't keep moaning about their behaviour because the government has enabled it. I still won't be surprised if infections go up

I think most of us know the risks whether we are in lockdown or not. It makes no difference whatsoever. What it does do is enable the country to open up, to allow businesses to get going again and for traders to start raking back some of their lost earnings. The rest is up to us.
Again, we can't complain about people's actions because it's allowing businesses to open up
Is this from another of your mystery polls or yet another of your 'truths'?
To be frank, I don't like your insinuation
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Quizzical Bob wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 16:15


You may not have been Gill.

Many others have. This has been more prolonged and severe than any other country, except perhaps Ireland. For all those who depend upon mass gatherings such as sporting events, theatres, cinemas, clubs, shows, concerts, Tese past sixteen months have been a nightmare.

But you have been ok so that's all right :)
Oh behave yourself Bob.
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oldbluefox wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 15:14
Gill W wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 14:05

On the subject of the Ferguson interview, both Keith and Ken had the same take on it as me, and most other people off this forum did too. I think it was only you who thought it was something fully supportive of ‘freedom day’
Is this from another of your mystery polls or yet another of your 'truths'?
You may not like it but how do you know what most other people off this forum think or don't think?
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oldbluefox wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 16:43
oldbluefox wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 15:14
Gill W wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 14:05

On the subject of the Ferguson interview, both Keith and Ken had the same take on it as me, and most other people off this forum did too. I think it was only you who thought it was something fully supportive of ‘freedom day’
Is this from another of your mystery polls or yet another of your 'truths'?
You may not like it but how do you know what most other people off this forum think or don't think?
Twitter echo chamber perhaps ???
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The past 16 months have witnessed several new coronavirus variants and my worry is that there could be another one just around the corner…indeed why wouldn’t there be having given them the environment they thrive in?

I clearly hope this isn’t the case but given the way lockdown has been lifted, how many of you would bet against this happening?

My advice to shop keepers is don’t over stock.

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Just saw this
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bottles-throw ... 56873.html
Having watched the pictures I am not sure that there is a full brain cell between the lot of them. It is time that the police and government started determining who the ring leaders are and put them, and everyone in their household, into a 'do not treat' list for the NHS.

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Onelife wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 17:02
The past 16 months have witnessed several new coronavirus variants and my worry is that there could be another one just around the corner…indeed why wouldn’t there be having given them the environment they thrive in?

I clearly hope this isn’t the case but given the way lockdown has been lifted, how many of you would bet against this happening?

My advice to shop keepers is don’t over stock.
Strictly speaking the release of lockdown is likely to produce more variants.

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Kendhni wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 17:46
Onelife wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 17:02
The past 16 months have witnessed several new coronavirus variants and my worry is that there could be another one just around the corner…indeed why wouldn’t there be having given them the environment they thrive in?

I clearly hope this isn’t the case but given the way lockdown has been lifted, how many of you would bet against this happening?

My advice to shop keepers is don’t over stock.
Strictly speaking the release of lockdown is likely to produce more variants.
I thought that was what I was implying?... perhaps… “lifting of restrictions” would have been more appropriate.


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Kendhni wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 17:46
Onelife wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 17:02
The past 16 months have witnessed several new coronavirus variants and my worry is that there could be another one just around the corner…indeed why wouldn’t there be having given them the environment they thrive in?

I clearly hope this isn’t the case but given the way lockdown has been lifted, how many of you would bet against this happening?

My advice to shop keepers is don’t over stock.
Strictly speaking the release of lockdown is likely to produce more variants.
What we need is a new variant that is more infectious and less deadly. Then we, and the world, will be laughing.

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Onelife wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 17:02
The past 16 months have witnessed several new coronavirus variants and my worry is that there could be another one just around the corner…indeed why wouldn’t there be having given them the environment they thrive in?

I clearly hope this isn’t the case but given the way lockdown has been lifted, how many of you would bet against this happening?

My advice to shop keepers is don’t over stock.
Letting a virus spread uncontrollably in a partially vaccinated population is a prefect environment for new variants to evolve.

I think you are right about the shopkeepers. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if restrictions come back, probably by the start of September.

(Before anyone starts, I’m not advocating a lockdown, or saying it’s a firm prediction. I’m saying it wouldn’t surprise me)
Kendhni wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 17:44
Just saw this
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bottles-throw ... 56873.html
Having watched the pictures I am not sure that there is a full brain cell between the lot of them. It is time that the police and government started determining who the ring leaders are and put them, and everyone in their household, into a 'do not treat' list for the NHS.
Is this the anti lockdown protesters, protesting about lockdown, on ( checks notes) freedom day? What a bunch of idiots
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Quizzical Bob wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 18:55
Kendhni wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 17:46
Onelife wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 17:02
The past 16 months have witnessed several new coronavirus variants and my worry is that there could be another one just around the corner…indeed why wouldn’t there be having given them the environment they thrive in?

I clearly hope this isn’t the case but given the way lockdown has been lifted, how many of you would bet against this happening?

My advice to shop keepers is don’t over stock.
Strictly speaking the release of lockdown is likely to produce more variants.
What we need is a new variant that is more infectious and less deadly. Then we, and the world, will be laughing.
That would be preferable Bob, but as you know, variants have a habit of leapfrogging the previous one to survive.

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Kendhni wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 17:44
Just saw this
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bottles-throw ... 56873.html
Having watched the pictures I am not sure that there is a full brain cell between the lot of them. It is time that the police and government started determining who the ring leaders are and put them, and everyone in their household, into a 'do not treat' list for the NHS.
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I said that as well .. if they are so convinced it is all a hoax then why aren't they volunteering to help in the hospitals ... nothing more than hypocritical rent-a-mob types.

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Onelife wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 19:21
Quizzical Bob wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 18:55
What we need is a new variant that is more infectious and less deadly. Then we, and the world, will be laughing.
That would be preferable Bob, but as you know, variants have a habit of leapfrogging the previous one to survive.
Actually Bob is right about variants. The prime objective of viruses is to survive themselves and killing their hosts doesn't help. They very often mutate to be more infectious but less harmful.

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I see Cummings has crawled out from under his stone again.

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[url] Covid: Boris Johnson resisted autumn lockdown as only over-80s dying - Dominic Cummings https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57854811[/url]

What’s worse.

A) Cummings crawling out from under this stone?

B) Johnson’s disregard for the lives or people over 80?

I’m guessing some forum members are approaching the milestone birthday of 80 ….. so he’s essentially saying it doesn’t matter if YOU die from Covid. Can anybody really defend that?
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,........or believing every word that comes out of Dominic Cummings mouth?
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This drip drip from Cummings must be to keep the money rolling in. Getting a bit tiresome now.
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Cummings and Kuennsberg......a marriage made in heaven, UK's answer to Oprah.
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oldbluefox wrote: 20 Jul 2021, 08:09
,........or believing every word that comes out of Dominic Cummings mouth?
He made some pretty lurid claims to the parliamentary committee and was told to produce evidence. Which he hasn't. So do I believe him? No. Of course some who previously said he was a devious liar are now lapping up every word. Just saying......

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I knew this bitch-slap between Johnson and Cummings, two of the most mendacious excuses for human beings, would be hilarious - it is certainly starting to warm up. I really hope it does not affect Carrie's ability to run the country. :)
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Kendhni wrote: 20 Jul 2021, 08:17
I knew this bitch-slap between Johnson and Cummings, two of the most mendacious excuses for human beings, would be hilarious - it is certainly starting to warm up. I really hope it does not affect Carrie's ability to run the country. :)
:lol: :lol:

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My take on the Cummings/Johnson debacle is that for a start Cummings has an axe to grind so whatever he says has to be viewed with a degree of scepticism.

I probably would be prepared to accept many of the comments that Cummings comes out with about Boris but I suspect that he is portraying them totally out of context and with a degree of embellishment (as one does when time has passed since the event)

One way or another at least one of them is telling porkies.

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