Absolutely not!!!!, although maybe the surly does.Onelife wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 10:30Oh come on Foxy, surly that sentence applies more to me than Sir Merv?oldbluefox wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 10:26Will you stop talking common sense, Merv?
Of course Boris is not perfect, but would you not be annoyed with him if prior to the last election opposition parties had him on the ropes, the government was in turmoil and the Remain movement in the ascendancy ( or so they thought). Boris fought on the Brexit ticket and won with an historic landslide. Some have still not got over the shock and will vent their spleen at every opportunity.![]()
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anniec
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Keith is not the only exception to the rule by a long way - I am another, as is The Telegraph, hardly a remain supporting newspaper. It's about integrity, trust and honesty.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 13:28All I can say Keefie is you are the exception that proves the rule. At least you should be happy that Boris delivered what Theresa was prevented from doing. And the thing is your natural and honourable instinct is to be lovely to everyone.Onelife wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 10:24Hi Sir Merv…I can’t speak for the other BorisBashers on the forum but for myself who wanted Brexit I can honestly say as a Brexiter Boris has let himself down, and in doing so has lost the trust of most of the electorate. I doubt very much that voters from either side of the brexit debate are allowing their affiliation to influence what is patently obvious to most. Imo
Well some others are not that nice and their attacks on Boris are full of venom and couched in spiteful language. They dismissed the Sue Gray report before it even started and are even now lining up their arguments to dismiss the Met's findings if they happens to disagree with their own views.
Goodness knows who they'll turn their fire on when Boris has gone and Brexit is still here!
The one I feel sorry for is Sir Hindsight. He keeps demanding Boris's resignation. But he knows once it happens his own chance of getting into Downing Street is reduced.
I don't find Gill's posts full of venom and couched in spiteful language (assuming that's who you are aiming at) and shall say no more.
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Unfortunately U.K. political opinions are starting to become as divisive as it is in America.
I’m no lover of Boris Johnson, quite the opposite actually, but having said that, it’s ridiculous to lay everything at his door.
What has surprised me is the amount of traditional Tory voters who have turned against their party purely based on their Brexit views.
Sure Johnson was the leading figure in Brexit but let’s not forget that the Party was very much for Remain.
He won the argument fair and square.
He won the Tory leadership fair and square.
He won the last election fair and square.
Why are people surprised that Boris Johnson behaves exactly like Boris Johnson?
Similarly with Trump.
He didn’t con anyone.
Voters knew exactly what they were getting.
Johnson’s days are obviously numbered but until then, maybe it’s time that the permanent critics wound their necks in a bit and looked at situations logically.
No more of this Johnson is this or Johnson is that.
We all know he is.
That was factored in when the electorate gave him a massive majority.
I’m no lover of Boris Johnson, quite the opposite actually, but having said that, it’s ridiculous to lay everything at his door.
What has surprised me is the amount of traditional Tory voters who have turned against their party purely based on their Brexit views.
Sure Johnson was the leading figure in Brexit but let’s not forget that the Party was very much for Remain.
He won the argument fair and square.
He won the Tory leadership fair and square.
He won the last election fair and square.
Why are people surprised that Boris Johnson behaves exactly like Boris Johnson?
Similarly with Trump.
He didn’t con anyone.
Voters knew exactly what they were getting.
Johnson’s days are obviously numbered but until then, maybe it’s time that the permanent critics wound their necks in a bit and looked at situations logically.
No more of this Johnson is this or Johnson is that.
We all know he is.
That was factored in when the electorate gave him a massive majority.
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Onelife
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Hi Sir Merv… Thank you for your kind words about me being lovely to everyone, I’m sure there is some truth in that statement somewhere.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 13:28All I can say Keefie is you are the exception that proves the rule. At least you should be happy that Boris delivered what Theresa was prevented from doing. And the thing is your natural and honourable instinct is to be lovely to everyone.Onelife wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 10:24Hi Sir Merv…I can’t speak for the other BorisBashers on the forum but for myself who wanted Brexit I can honestly say as a Brexiter Boris has let himself down, and in doing so has lost the trust of most of the electorate. I doubt very much that voters from either side of the brexit debate are allowing their affiliation to influence what is patently obvious to most. Imo
Well some others are not that nice and their attacks on Boris are full of venom and couched in spiteful language. They dismissed the Sue Gray report before it even started and are even now lining up their arguments to dismiss the Met's findings if they happens to disagree with their own views.
Goodness knows who they'll turn their fire on when Boris has gone and Brexit is still here!
The one I feel sorry for is Sir Hindsight. He keeps demanding Boris's resignation. But he knows once it happens his own chance of getting into Downing Street is reduced.
I would also like to thank you for using the word ‘Prevented’ when referring to Theresa May. As you and others know, I won’t have a bad word said about this honourable lady who was gagged, shackled and left powerless by those who’s agenda it was to prevent the democratic process from being honoured.
I accept that Boris did get Brexit done and I’m pleased to say it seems to be working out better than some were predicting…. I think it also fair to say on this occasion Boris was in the right place at the right time, however time waits for no one and his time is most certainly up…well it should be.
However, in the spirit of being lovely to everyone should Boris find himself able to ride this one out, one would sincerely hope that he has learnt some very valuable lessons about what it takes to be the leader with integrity.
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OL's honourable lady was also ignored and humiliated by EU leaders who saw her as a soft touch. I found that unprofessional and distasteful and demonstrated the disdain the EU had for us at that time.
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With changes to the highway code tomorrow it looks like a record numbers of people recently visited Barnard Castle. No doubt testing if they are fit to drive.
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I am happy to accept you too are an exception Annie. And no I was not referring specifically to Gill. It was a general comment covering posts from a number of people on here.anniec wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 15:17Keith is not the only exception to the rule by a long way - I am another, as is The Telegraph, hardly a remain supporting newspaper. It's about integrity, trust and honesty.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 13:28All I can say Keefie is you are the exception that proves the rule. At least you should be happy that Boris delivered what Theresa was prevented from doing. And the thing is your natural and honourable instinct is to be lovely to everyone.Onelife wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 10:24Hi Sir Merv…I can’t speak for the other BorisBashers on the forum but for myself who wanted Brexit I can honestly say as a Brexiter Boris has let himself down, and in doing so has lost the trust of most of the electorate. I doubt very much that voters from either side of the brexit debate are allowing their affiliation to influence what is patently obvious to most. Imo
Well some others are not that nice and their attacks on Boris are full of venom and couched in spiteful language. They dismissed the Sue Gray report before it even started and are even now lining up their arguments to dismiss the Met's findings if they happens to disagree with their own views.
Goodness knows who they'll turn their fire on when Boris has gone and Brexit is still here!
The one I feel sorry for is Sir Hindsight. He keeps demanding Boris's resignation. But he knows once it happens his own chance of getting into Downing Street is reduced.
I don't find Gill's posts full of venom and couched in spiteful language (assuming that's who you are aiming at) and shall say no more.
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Loving the furious backpedalling as a result of the usual suspects cowering behind broad brush snide comments.

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Don't worry Ken. I've happily accepted a couple of exceptions to the rule. But you're firmly in there.Kendhni wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 17:01Loving the furious backpedalling as a result of the usual suspects cowering behind broad brush snide comments.![]()
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Hi Ray, moving down the road a bit...Ray B wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 16:00With changes to the highway code tomorrow it looks like a record numbers of people recently visited Barnard Castle. No doubt testing if they are fit to drive.
I think the rule change “People crossing the road at junctions” is a recipe to do more harm than good.
The new rule states....when people are crossing or waiting to cross at a junction, other traffic should give way. if people have started crossing and traffic wants to turn into the road, the people crossing have priority and the traffic should give way
I can see this rule causing loads of whiplash injuries due to drivers getting shunted from behind. Whilst we should all be observant to pedestrians needing to cross safely, I think it ludicrous to bring in a rule whereby drivers are expected to give way when the driver could be turning off a busy road onto a side road then to have to put their brakes on to give way to a pedestrian standing on the bend of said junction.
Furthermore, I can see fraudulent compensation claims going in left right and centre from what will soon to be known as bend jumpers.
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You could be sat at junctions for a while whilst all the pedestrians troop across after which you will need to find a gap in the traffic.
As somebody said those who dreamt up these new rules were not car drivers but they weren't cyclists either. I think a goodly dose of common sense might have been preferable.
As somebody said those who dreamt up these new rules were not car drivers but they weren't cyclists either. I think a goodly dose of common sense might have been preferable.
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Literally no one is going to take the blindest bit of notice to this.oldbluefox wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 20:17You could be sat at junctions for a while whilst all the pedestrians troop across after which you will need to find a gap in the traffic.
As somebody said those who dreamt up these new rules were not car drivers but they weren't cyclists either. I think a goodly dose of common sense might have been preferable.
Any pedestrian who walks out assuming the driver will stop is in for a shock
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It's going to be interesting on narrow country lanes to come around a bend to find a cyclist in the middle of the road.
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Onelife
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Rules for rules sake spring to mind Foxyoldbluefox wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 20:17You could be sat at junctions for a while whilst all the pedestrians troop across after which you will need to find a gap in the traffic.
As somebody said those who dreamt up these new rules were not car drivers but they weren't cyclists either. I think a goodly dose of common sense might have been preferable.
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Onelife
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They’ve obviously got far too much time on their hands…if they want to find something useful to make pedestrians more safe, they should go out with a chamois and a bucket of water and clean all the filthy road signs.
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No one will take a blind bit of notice of the new Highway Code rules. And unless plod can be bothered they won’t be enforced either.
As you say, some jobs worth with nothing better to do which has no doubt cost millions to implement.
As you say, some jobs worth with nothing better to do which has no doubt cost millions to implement.
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And we will all be using the "Dutch" method of opening the car door - won't we?
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That a given in rural Darzet, in fact only last week a pedestrian was killed by a lorry coming round a bend.oldbluefox wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 21:20It's going to be interesting on narrow country lanes to come around a bend to find a cyclist in the middle of the road.
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oldbluefox
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Some of the activities of of Lycra man, coupled with boy racers on our country roads make for a dangerous cocktail.
Rules such as these cannot replace common sense on either side.
Rules such as these cannot replace common sense on either side.
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Manoverboard
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Could / should this ' People Crossing ' be the area with a pedestrian Crossing painted on it rather than simply a number of people crossing a road ?Onelife wrote: 28 Jan 2022, 19:59
The new rule states....when people are crossing or waiting to cross at a junction, other traffic should give way. if people have started crossing and traffic wants to turn into the road, the people crossing have priority and the traffic should give way
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