Current Affairs

[Stephen]

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[Bensham33]

I see that the Sue Gray report is being published by Simon & Schuster.

Are you sitting comfortably.......

[Kendhni]

If this mornings headlines are to be believed then the comeback kid is about to come out fighting with several u-turns and re-raising policies he failed to deal with several years ago by creating an actual plan. Now that he is "being protected by Cressida d**k" (as Andrew Pierce put it) he has breathing space to try to turn things around.

There also seems to be some concern of Johnson's sabre rattling (apparently to the amusement of Putin) ... given his poor track record in foreign diplomacy some are concerned that he will end up making matters worse.

I wonder if Cummings will roll out something else ... this bitch-fest is far better than 'Yes Primeminister' ever was.

[Onelife]

Boris's plan is a “time heals all wounds” strategy... in the hope that distraction is his best form of defence.

[Manoverboard]

I do like his plan to get shot of the EU restrictive red tape ... Brexit rules OK

[Gill W]

Brexit added a load of so called red tape, now that we are a third country. It’s got much worse in Dover for lorry drivers since the start of January this year, now that one of the grace periods finished.

And another batch of red tape to kick in in July when another grace period ends, regarding checks on food stuffs.

This so called Brexit freedoms bill looks like it’s been thought up on the fly over the weekend as a distraction to Partygate.

It’ll no doubt work as there is a section of society in this country that still hasn’t been able to move on from constantly moaning about the EU

[Manoverboard]

This so called Brexit freedoms bill looks like it’s been thought up on the fly over the weekend as a distraction to Partygate.

The above Law is the instrument needed to achieve the changes required, as I understand it.

You would know that the EU embedded Laws are vast and that it would have taken ages to go through them to see what needs keeping or amending else deleting. Suggesting that it's a weekend job is ridiculous.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Another section hasn't been able to move on from constantly moaning about Brexit.

[towny44]

This so called Brexit freedoms bill looks like it’s been thought up on the fly over the weekend as a distraction to Partygate.

The above Law is the instrument needed to achieve the changes required, as I understand it.

You would know that the EU embedded Laws are vast and that it would have taken ages to go through them to see what needs keeping or amending else deleting. Suggesting that it's a weekend job is ridiculous.

Boris bashers seem to have failed in their initial all out attack, so are now regrouping and taking the odd pot shots to try and find a chink in his armour.
However I guess after licking their wounds they will cobble something else together to use as a battering ram.

[Onelife]

The wounds of partygate are still wide open and no matter how many plasters he tries to put on it the scars will remain.
My biggest concern is that his distraction plans will ultimately be found to be ill thought out just like his party planning.

[Onelife]

This so called Brexit freedoms bill looks like it’s been thought up on the fly over the weekend as a distraction to Partygate.

The above Law is the instrument needed to achieve the changes required, as I understand it.

You would know that the EU embedded Laws are vast and that it would have taken ages to go through them to see what needs keeping or amending else deleting. Suggesting that it's a weekend job is ridiculous.

Boris bashers seem to have failed in their initial all out attack, so are now regrouping and taking the odd pot shots to try and find a chink in his armour.
However I guess after licking their wounds they will cobble something else together to use as a battering ram.

Nah! John....we are doing what you Boris lovers said we should do and wait for the Sue Gray report..

[oldbluefox]

Nah! John....we are doing what you Boris lovers said we should do and wait for the Sue Gray report..

Sounds like you've come round to our way of thinking

[Manoverboard]

A few reported facts about the EU restrictions Laws ... sorry to confuse.

[Onelife]

Nah! John....we are doing what you Boris lovers said we should do and wait for the Sue Gray report..

Sounds like you've come round to our way of thinking

See it more as a peace keeping gesture until Boris lovers wake up and smell the coffee…and remember, two sugars in mine

[Mervyn and Trish]

Latte for me please.

But in the meantime OL you misunderstand. I'm not sure any of us love Boris. We are simply grateful he delivered what the Remoaners tried to derail. And we're bored with the constant drip drip of nonsense from the Boris Bashers. He will be gone before the next election. And I for one will be grateful, because we now need someone to save us from Sir Clueless-Hindsight. Or at the very least to force him to tell us who he is, other than Not-Boris.

I am true floating voter. I actually voted for Tony Bliar because he signalled well in advance that he was New Labour and what that meant. That was of course before he showed himself to be a lying war-monger. I couldn't have voted for Marxist Corbyn if he'd been the only one on the ballot paper. I now need to see the new Tory leader, who will emerge in due course, and find out who Sir C-H actually is. And simply Bashing Boris tells me nothing. Other than that he's more bothered about a few parties than the outbreak of World War 3. I need information, not sniping, to make my next informed choice.

[Manoverboard]

The let's 'ave a Party report has been delivered to No 10 .... whoooooo

ps ... I also voted for Tony Blair's New Labour , wadda mistaka to maka

[Gill W]

You would know that the EU embedded Laws are vast and that it would have taken ages to go through them to see what needs keeping or amending else deleting. Suggesting that it's a weekend job is ridiculous.

I didn't say that though.

I said that the idea had been thought up over the weekend

[Kendhni]

We are simply grateful he delivered what the Remoaners tried to derail.

To be fair the Brexitards were equally guilty of derailing, since they couldn't determine which of the dozens of flavours of brexit they should be back ing ... requiring them to have something like 30 votes in the HoC before they got the answer they wanted.

[oldbluefox]

This so called Brexit freedoms bill looks like it’s been thought up on the fly over the weekend as a distraction to Partygate.

This actually means nothing. Whatever it 'looks like' to Gill I would imagine the civil servants will have been working on it in collaboration with those on the other side of the Channel to find a workable solution. I don't believe any of this is 'thought up on the fly'.

[Onelife]

Latte for me please.

But in the meantime OL you misunderstand. I'm not sure any of us love Boris. We are simply grateful he delivered what the Remoaners tried to derail. And we're bored with the constant drip drip of nonsense from the Boris Bashers. He will be gone before the next election. And I for one will be grateful, because we now need someone to save us from Sir Clueless-Hindsight. Or at the very least to force him to tell us who he is, other than Not-Boris.

I’ve noted several of you have said Boris won’t be around for the next election, I'm however a little more sceptical about this being the case. If he can manoeuvre his way around the Gray report there is a good possibility that Boris the Dodger could be around a lot longer than many of you think.

[oldbluefox]

We are simply grateful he delivered what the Remoaners tried to derail.

To be fair the Brexitards were equally guilty of derailing, since they couldn't determine which of the dozens of flavours of brexit they should be back ing ... requiring them to have something like 30 votes in the HoC before they got the answer they wanted.

Interesting programme on the TV a couple of weeks ago where it was revealed that Osborne and Cameron were so sure that the country would vote to remain (shows how little they knew in their cosy home counties bubble) that it came as a complete shock when the vote went against them and they had no plans in place for Brexit. Shortly afterwards 'We don't back down' Dave resigned and Theresa took over. As a remainer herself she was tasked with taking us out of the EU and came up with an half in/half out/ half a***d solution which satisfied nobody as she continually kicked the can down the road.
Boris had one view and one view only and that was to shut the door on the EU, a promise which he fulfilled and for which some will never forgive him.
Had it not been for Coronavirus I believe he would have been ditched by the Tories long ago but I feel sure he will be long gone before the next GE anyway. The Tories are literally biding their time.

[oldbluefox]

I’ve noted several of you have said Boris won’t be around for the next election, I'm however a little more sceptical about this being the case. If he can manoeuvre his way around the Gray report there is a good possibility that Boris the Dodger could be around a lot longer than many of you think.

Might be worth putting a few bob on it OL. Better chances on this than the donkey walloping.

[Manoverboard]

You would know that the EU embedded Laws are vast and that it would have taken ages to go through them to see what needs keeping or amending else deleting. Suggesting that it's a weekend job is ridiculous.

I didn't say that though.

I said that the idea had been thought up over the weekend

Your inference however was this past weekend whereas the reality would, if accurate, have been a weekend many many moons ago.

[Kendhni]

We are simply grateful he delivered what the Remoaners tried to derail.

To be fair the Brexitards were equally guilty of derailing, since they couldn't determine which of the dozens of flavours of brexit they should be back ing ... requiring them to have something like 30 votes in the HoC before they got the answer they wanted.

Interesting programme on the TV a couple of weeks ago where it was revealed that Osborne and Cameron were so sure that the country would vote to remain (shows how little they knew in their cosy home counties bubble) that it came as a complete shock when the vote went against them and they had no plans in place for Brexit.

I don't doubt that at all ... but equally no brexiteer had any plan for what happens in the event that the brexit camp won (simply because they did not expect to win and therefore did not need a plan). Strictly speaking they still don't have a plan.

Brexit delivered very little of their 'Contract with the people' and, as of yet, they have no plans on how to deliver anything more. So in a way I welcome that they are finally trying to put in place some sort of plan for the handling of brexit. Albeit it is just a light weight 'do nothing' plan (probably more diversionary than anything else) that may allow them to do something in the future to amend rules the UK was instrumental in creating in the first place ... and there was all those brexiteers that had thought they had already taken back sovereignty.

As a remainer herself she was tasked with taking us out of the EU and came up with an half in/half out/ half a***d solution which satisfied nobody as she continually kicked the can down the road.

Again I agree, it was not a good deal ... and Johnson actually managed to make it worse. Sadly at that first PM election the brexiteers were infighting trying to get themselves ruled out ... not a single brexiteer made any serious attempt at taking the PM post. When TM presented the deal there were obvious flaws, but that deal still formed the overwhelming majority of what was actually delivered.

Boris had one view and one view only and that was to shut the door on the EU, a promise which he fulfilled and for which some will never forgive him.

The problem is that, as is now coming out, Johnson did not actually understand the deal that had been negotiated .. he did not understand what brexit actually meant. He totally blocked any scrutiny or due diligence being carried out on the final deal (was that to cover up his mistake?) ... that DD could have resolved some of the issues he is now back pedalling on. Unfortunately for future generations, the chosen deal was the 'Brexit at any cost' option ... and the hundreds of billions of manufactured money that have been thrown at it still have not come close to delivering the promised brexit.

Had it not been for Coronavirus I believe he would have been ditched by the Tories long ago but I feel sure he will be long gone before the next GE anyway. The Tories are literally biding their time.

I agree ... he was there to take the blame for brexit and nothing else ... but a pandemic changed the plan and, I suspect, they thought he could take the blame for that as well.

But Johnson is the comeback kid and I would never count him out until he is actually verifiably and indisputably out.

[oldbluefox]

Theresa May, basically a remainer, tried to cobble together a deal which would satisfy everybody but basically it ended up satisfying nobody.
She conceded ground to the EU who clearly saw she was weak and could be manipulated and as a consequence she came up with a withdrawal agreement which could not work.
Unfortunately when Boris took over he was left with a dog's dinner of a document, facing an EU which were standing by the agreements made with TM and ultimately a bit of a fudge in order to get it through parliament. Given a clean slate instead of TM constantly kicking the tin down the road I believe we would have had a very different Brexit with fewer concessions to the EU. Better or worse we will never know.