Well, need we say more..?david63 wrote: 28 Jan 2018, 19:42Obviously Labour Party "silly season" - two headlines today:
Jeremy Corbyn is going to give houses to all the momeless.
McDonnell want accountancy firms to ensure companies pay more tax - does he not realise that the accountancy firms are employed (at great cost) to minimise tax?
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I wouldn't be too impressed if my accountant suggested a cunning plan for me to pay more tax.david63 wrote: 28 Jan 2018, 19:42Obviously Labour Party "silly season" - two headlines today:
Jeremy Corbyn is going to give houses to all the momeless.
McDonnell want accountancy firms to ensure companies pay more tax - does he not realise that the accountancy firms are employed (at great cost) to minimise tax?
I think I'd be looking for a new accountant
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Well the BBC have finally got their man, or in this case Woman, Amber Rudd has fallen on her sword and resigned as Home Secretary. I wonder how Diane Abbott will feel if Theresa appoints Michael Gove as her successor???!!!!!
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Beats me how the arrogant Ms Abbott holds on to her job although it probably helps she is an ex floosy of Jeremy's and an MP in the Socialist Republic of London.
Michael Gove opposing Ms Abbott would be an interesting proposition.
Michael Gove opposing Ms Abbott would be an interesting proposition.
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I think that she should appoint Jacob Rees-Mogg to the home office.towny44 wrote: 29 Apr 2018, 22:38Well the BBC have finally got their man, or in this case Woman, Amber Rudd has fallen on her sword and resigned as Home Secretary. I wonder how Diane Abbott will feel if Theresa appoints Michael Gove as her successor???!!!!!
He'd eat Abbott for breakfast all day long.
it would be like watching some perverse blood sport.
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On a serious note, can anyone really see Britain being taken seriously with Abbott as home Secretary and Thornbury as Foreign Secretary.
In a normal political world, these two would not have gotten a sniff of any front bench job. It's only because the serious politicians refused to serve under Corbyn. They were almost last resort.
In a normal political world, these two would not have gotten a sniff of any front bench job. It's only because the serious politicians refused to serve under Corbyn. They were almost last resort.
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Even more seriously - would you feel safe in Britain with those two with their chief pacifist, non decision maker, Russian friend at the helm?barney wrote: 30 Apr 2018, 10:17On a serious note, can anyone really see Britain being taken seriously with Abbott as home Secretary and Thornbury as Foreign Secretary.
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Going on for decades eh? So that includes how many years of Labour Government?
Personally I think it is despicable to mix the issues of Windrush people, who have a perfect right to be here with illegal immigrants. For the latter the clue is in the name. Illegal. There should be a removal target. 100%.
(That's all of them to you Diane)
Personally I think it is despicable to mix the issues of Windrush people, who have a perfect right to be here with illegal immigrants. For the latter the clue is in the name. Illegal. There should be a removal target. 100%.
(That's all of them to you Diane)
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But the permanent staff are still there, only the leader has changed.
Don't worry, be happy
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There is a flaw in that - if they are illegal immigrants then you don't know who or where they are
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It should still be the ambition. Our current immigration system is a shambles, allowing any EU citizen in whether they have anything to offer or not, making immigration difficult for non EU people who may have skills we need and failing to address illegal immigration at all. Let's face it when we do know who they are and where they are there's usually a Human Rights lawyer ready to stop their deportation for a fat Legal Aid fee!
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And while the lawyers and government argue among themselves the illegal immigrant/s will probably no doubt still be claiming every benefit under the sun while everyone else has to jump through hoops.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 30 Apr 2018, 18:11It should still be the ambition. Our current immigration system is a shambles, allowing any EU citizen in whether they have anything to offer or not, making immigration difficult for non EU people who may have skills we need and failing to address illegal immigration at all. Let's face it when we do know who they are and where they are there's usually a Human Rights lawyer ready to stop their deportation for a fat Legal Aid fee!
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You can't help loving Diane Abbott. Better entertainment than Russ Abbott.
Another example here of an Abbott wriggle and squirm.
Scary to think if Labour did get into power she would be responsible for the security of the nation.
Another example here of an Abbott wriggle and squirm.
Scary to think if Labour did get into power she would be responsible for the security of the nation.
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God knows how she got her job, she comes across as thick as sh*t
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Looks as if UKIP is now "dead in the water" after yesterday's local election results. That's the trouble with a "one man party" - when the man leaves the party dies!
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From his regular appearances on TV and radio, along with his MEP salary, I guess Nige is doing quite well, maybe not in Tony Blair's league but better than most.david63 wrote: 05 May 2018, 08:13Looks as if UKIP is now "dead in the water" after yesterday's local election results. That's the trouble with a "one man party" - when the man leaves the party dies!
However it will be interesting to watch the death throes of UKIP, I doubt it will just fade away and die.
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It's already dead towny.towny44 wrote: 05 May 2018, 08:49From his regular appearances on TV and radio, along with his MEP salary, I guess Nige is doing quite well, maybe not in Tony Blair's league but better than most.david63 wrote: 05 May 2018, 08:13Looks as if UKIP is now "dead in the water" after yesterday's local election results. That's the trouble with a "one man party" - when the man leaves the party dies!
However it will be interesting to watch the death throes of UKIP, I doubt it will just fade away and die.
It's done it's job and it's time is up.
Maybe, if immediately after the referendum, it had rebranded itself with Farage remaining as leader, it could have had a good future as an alternative third party. But, it would have needed a new name as well. Maybe something like the 'National Party'
That hasn't done the SNP any harm, has it?
But, it didn't and it's time is over as far as the electorate are concerned. Time to move on.
I still think there is room for another political party in the UK, after all, where are all of the fruitcakes and loonies going to go now?
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I watched Kay Burley's interview with Jacob Rees-Mogg on Sky news
What an unusal person in this day and age.
He came across as very honest and most unusually for a politician, seemed happy to actually give an answer to a question.
I think she came away quite charmed by him.
What an unusal person in this day and age.
He came across as very honest and most unusually for a politician, seemed happy to actually give an answer to a question.
I think she came away quite charmed by him.
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I really like Jacob Rees-Mogg and find it quite offensive when people try to demean him because of his wealth and social standing. If he came from a council estate from parents who were on the dole there would be absolute uproar that anyone could attack him in such a way.
However no matter what the goading, what the insults he remains calm and polite. He is one of the few politicians who makes sense as opposed to the rantings of the likes of Soubry and Morgan, not even mentioning Abbott. Sorry, I just did!!
However no matter what the goading, what the insults he remains calm and polite. He is one of the few politicians who makes sense as opposed to the rantings of the likes of Soubry and Morgan, not even mentioning Abbott. Sorry, I just did!!
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JRM A very skillful polished performer. albeit an ideologueoldbluefox wrote: 07 May 2018, 17:10I really like Jacob Rees-Mogg and find it quite offensive when people try to demean him because of his wealth and social standing. If he came from a council estate from parents who were on the dole there would be absolute uproar that anyone could attack him in such a way.
However no matter what the goading, what the insults he remains calm and polite. He is one of the few politicians who makes sense as opposed to the rantings of the likes of Soubry and Morgan, not even mentioning Abbott. Sorry, I just did!!![]()
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Unlike Soubry, Morgan and Abbott I suppose who would quickly acquiesce to a federal Europe controlled from Brussels (and Strasbourg four days a month)
In all seriousness how can anyone justify spending £130 million a year on this futile extravagance?
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I thought it was £8bn a year?oldbluefox wrote: 07 May 2018, 21:42Unlike Soubry, Morgan and Abbott I suppose who would quickly acquiesce to a federal Europe controlled from Brussels (and Strasbourg four days a month)
In all seriousness how can anyone justify spending £130 million a year on this futile extravagance?
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