Brexit

[barney]

Interview on BBS Business channel yesterday.
They were talking to an analyst about Dixon Carphone Warehouse
Sale of mobile phones down by 5% - due to Brexit uncertainty
Sale of large screen TVs up by 15% - despite Brexit uncertainty

Sky News Project Armageddon went into hyper drive this morning on Adam Boulton show.
They had a reporter talking to the company that make insulin in Denmark.
Will their be shortages in the UK because people are already stockpiling.?
We don't envisage that happening said the guy.
But people are concerned said the reporter.
Of course they are, but we're pretty sure everything will be ok, said the guy.

So, in summary, Brexit chaos and the supplier cannot 100% guarantee supplies will flow.

The next story was that only 15% of traffic will flow through Dover according to a 'leaked' report.
Do they think we are total idiots and don't understand how modern customs work?
Do they think that there will be a little man standing at a barrier, checking each consignment?
It hasn't worked like that years.

I have a friend in Kent who owns a major candle import company. He's Danish by the way.
I am talking millions of candles a year.
They are manufactured in China and arrive by the container load into Tilbury docks.
A declaration is made in advance and every now and then, a random container may be checked, but by and all it's a documented transaction.
That could be done in Ireland and that could be done at Dover

Instead of finding solutions to relatively minor problems, some are putting un-necessary obstacles in the way

I give up !
I honestly do!
What is wrong with theses people ?

[Manoverboard]

It is interesting to note that a poster or two have told us that people are or will be stockpiling medicines, how do they do that ?

In darkest Darzet our repeat prescriptions are on t'puter and t'puter will not let us re-order unless we are within a week of running out.

Surely we are not at the forefront of technology ?

[Ray Scully]

Interview on BBS Business channel yesterday.
They were talking to an analyst about Dixon Carphone Warehouse
Sale of mobile phones down by 5% - due to Brexit uncertainty
Sale of large screen TVs up by 15% - despite Brexit uncertainty

Sky News Project Armageddon went into hyper drive this morning on Adam Boulton show.
They had a reporter talking to the company that make insulin in Denmark.
Will their be shortages in the UK because people are already stockpiling.?
We don't envisage that happening said the guy.
But people are concerned said the reporter.
Of course they are, but we're pretty sure everything will be ok, said the guy.

So, in summary, Brexit chaos and the supplier cannot 100% guarantee supplies will flow.

The next story was that only 15% of traffic will flow through Dover according to a 'leaked' report.
Do they think we are total idiots and don't understand how modern customs work?
Do they think that there will be a little man standing at a barrier, checking each consignment?
It hasn't worked like that years.

I have a friend in Kent who owns a major candle import company. He's Danish by the way.
I am talking millions of candles a year.
They are manufactured in China and arrive by the container load into Tilbury docks.
A declaration is made in advance and every now and then, a random container may be checked, but by and all it's a documented transaction.
That could be done in Ireland and that could be done at Dover

Instead of finding solutions to relatively minor problems, some are putting un-necessary obstacles in the way

I give up !
I honestly do!
What is wrong with theses people ?

Barney, are you suggesting that the Irish border resolution is a relatively minor problem?

[Mervyn and Trish]

We are leaving the EU. Have you not been keeping up.

Doesn't look like Dyson thinks so.

Sorry Jack, but I think you just tripped over the Remain argument. So you say Dyson is moving his HQ because he believes we are staying in the EU? Where I thought the argument was he was leaving because he was worried we were leaving the EU.

[Mervyn and Trish]

That's common knowledge. His research and development is done in the UK where the most innovative minds are. Our little rock is world famous for innovation. (despite Brexit)

...innovation and tax evasion.

Something that becomes a lot more difficult if we stay in the EU.
I wonder why the arch Brexiter, after all his campaigning has decided now is the time to leave.

Hmmm. So tax evasion is more difficult in the EU. Where the head of the Commission is Juncker. Who was Prime Minister of Luxembourg which, allegedly, at the time had turned into a major European centre of corporate tax avoidance.

Oh the irony.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Barney, are you suggesting that the Irish border resolution is a relatively minor problem?

I think it could be if they wanted it to be. Irish business seems less bothered by the issue than the politicians using it to try to stop Brexit.

[Jack Staff]

Hmmm. So tax evasion is more difficult in the EU. Where the head of the Commission is Juncker. Who was Prime Minister of Luxembourg which, allegedly, at the time had turned into a major European centre of corporate tax avoidance.

Oh the irony.

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/b ... rective_en

[Jack Staff]

Sorry Jack, but I think you just tripped over the Remain argument. So you say Dyson is moving his HQ because he believes we are staying in the EU? Where I thought the argument was he was leaving because he was worried we were leaving the EU.

By moving to Singapore Dyson retains all the advantages of the UK pre Brexit (FTA with EU).
When we don't leave, post 1st April if Dyson stayed he would have to declare his tax to the EU.

[barney]

Sorry Jack, but I think you just tripped over the Remain argument. So you say Dyson is moving his HQ because he believes we are staying in the EU? Where I thought the argument was he was leaving because he was worried we were leaving the EU.

By moving to Singapore Dyson retains all the advantages of the UK pre Brexit (FTA with EU).
When we don't leave, post 1st April if Dyson stayed he would have to declare his tax to the EU.

You've lost me on that one Jack

[Jack Staff]

You've lost me on that one Jack

Dyson wants FTA with EU (for his company)
Dyson does not want to pay tax.
Singapore fits.
Don't think I can make it any simpler. Before you ask, no, I was not in the boardroom. Do I know this as fact? no.
This is purely musings, the kind of thing a forum is for. But it all fits the Brexiter M.O.

[barney]

Oh. I shall be speaking to my accountant and see if I can set up something similar. I don't want to pay too much tax either.

[Jack Staff]

Oh. I shall be speaking to my accountant and see if I can set up something similar. I don't want to pay too much tax either.

You would be far better off simply buying Euros.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Hmmm. So tax evasion is more difficult in the EU. Where the head of the Commission is Juncker. Who was Prime Minister of Luxembourg which, allegedly, at the time had turned into a major European centre of corporate tax avoidance.

Oh the irony.

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/b ... rective_en

Yes Jack. So why hasn't Juncker been sacked? Isn't that like making a racist the head of the Equality Commission?

[screwy]

And just why should we have to run our Tax receipts and Budgets through the Eu.? An organisation that doesn’t declare it’s books.! How I long for us to run our own Country again.

[Jack Staff]

Yes Jack. So why hasn't Juncker been sacked? Isn't that like making a racist the head of the Equality Commission?

Not sure what you are trying to imply.
What's this to do with racism?

[Jack Staff]

And just why should we have to run our Tax receipts and Budgets through the Eu.?

We don't

An organisation that doesn’t declare it’s books.!

What would you like to know? I'll see if I can find it for you.

How I long for us to run our own Country again.

We do and they way it has been run since the Brexit vote proves that. If the EU had a say, they would not allow a country to do so much damage to itself.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Yes Jack. So why hasn't Juncker been sacked? Isn't that like making a racist the head of the Equality Commission?

Not sure what you are trying to imply.
What's this to do with racism?

Not implying anything Jack.

Stating clearly. It's different.

But in case it passed you by Juncker was Prime Minister in a country which stands accused of being a haven for tax avoidance. Now he's one of the multiple Presidents of the EU, which you suggest makes tax dodging more difficult. Ironic eh?

The racism reference was what is called an analogy.

[barney]

And just why should we have to run our Tax receipts and Budgets through the Eu.?

We don't

An organisation that doesn’t declare it’s books.!

What would you like to know? I'll see if I can find it for you.

How I long for us to run our own Country again.

We do and they way it has been run since the Brexit vote proves that. If the EU had a say, they would not allow a country to do so much damage to itself.

I think you will find that we do jack.
Why do you think that there has been this huge rift with Italy recently and there will be one forthcoming with France, because of Macron's capitulation to the Yellow Vests.
It appears that you may not be the EU expert that you profess to be. And after all these years of membership

[barney]

Yes Jack. So why hasn't Juncker been sacked? Isn't that like making a racist the head of the Equality Commission?

Not sure what you are trying to imply.
What's this to do with racism?

Not implying anything Jack.

Stating clearly. It's different.

But in case it passed you by Juncker was Prime Minister in a country which stands accused of being a haven for tax avoidance. Now he's one of the multiple Presidents of the EU, which you suggest makes tax dodging more difficult. Ironic eh?

The racism reference was what is called an analogy.

Luxembourg does have special exemptions Merv, as do Malta and Ireland.
Malta is dodgy as hell where taxation is concerned and scandals are virtually a daily occurrence. That is why most of the online gaming sites are based there. Very little regulation.
https://zugimpex.com/malta-tax.html

things may be changing shortly and they are not happy about it.
https://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/v ... ing.699710
This is one of the many issues where some seem to think that we would have a veto if the UK were to remain a member.

They are also Europe's number one for selling EU passports, (well, Maltese, but it's the same for access issues) to anyone who can stump up 600,00 Euros.
A Saudi family recently bought 16 in one go.
They are one of the few European countries to have a socialist Government, but they are clearly Blair type socialists.
Fill your pockets while you have the chance then land a cushy job in Brussels.

[oldbluefox]

Hmmm. So tax evasion is more difficult in the EU. Where the head of the Commission is Juncker. Who was Prime Minister of Luxembourg which, allegedly, at the time had turned into a major European centre of corporate tax avoidance.

Oh the irony.

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/b ... rective_en

Is this what Merv was talking about? "Jean-Claude Juncker blocked EU curbs on tax avoidance, cables show"

[barney]

An excellent article from Politico EU.
Please read if you have time.
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit- ... ew-brexit/

[Onelife]

Hi Barney.......its probably me but l can never open any of your links for some reason........what was the crux of the article?

[Jack Staff]

Barney, there is nothing inherently wrong in that article.
But it is written by someone who does not know the history of Ireland.
Neither do I, but I know I don't know.
'Everything would be fine if we just ignore the border issue' is not an option, for the EU and especially for us.

[barney]

Hi Barney.......its probably me but l can never open any of your links for some reason........what was the crux of the article?

The general thrust Keith, is that both sides of made a pigs whatnot of the 'negotiation'.

Our side for starting in the wrong place and agreeing to the EU dictating all of the terms.
The EU for making such a big deal over Ireland. The author saying that things could have got sorted without EU intransigence.

I think that we will eventually see some sort of time limited back stop, say of five years or something.
Let's be frank, if the two parties cannot agree a trade deal during the implementation period and the not within another five years, then they never will.
So, if no agreement, the whole of the UK will remain as is, not just N.I.
That seems reasonable to me.
In the meantime, it will leave us free to seek out new trade deal on our own, without billions in payments to the EU and an end to uncontrolled immigration.

Now that a second referendum is off the table, things should progress more smoothly in Parliament.

[Jack Staff]

Now that a second referendum is off the table, things should progress more smoothly in Parliament.

You wish!