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Jan Rosser wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 15:57
Stephen wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 15:34
Manoverboard wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 13:21

Nah ... the old bat's on her own there but in light of your suggestion I may mention the idea to Mobietta :angel:

Not very nice. I take it you don't get on.
She’s not in Moby’s bubble :thumbdown:
They must be a bit slow in Essex Jan :lol: :shh:
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barney wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 08:42
One thing for sure is that I’m glad I’m not living in France.
They are well behind the curve.
I expect the Eu apologists will say it’s because of blah or because of blah.
It’s really because the Eu moves at the pace of a sloth.
#happytobeout
Why are you still obsessing about the EU ? Move on.

I don’t give a flying about the EU and vaccinations. Or any other country.

I’m interested in the vaccination programme in this country.
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Kendhni wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 08:18
oldbluefox wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 22:27
In the midst of all the bad news something we should celebrate. We have now vaccinated more people than the rest of Europe put together. And new treatments have been discovered which increase the chances of recovery by 25%. NHS🖒 :clap:
Fact check.
While Britain is doing well, a simple count is not what is important, it is the percentage of the population that is vaccinated that is important. Britain still does well on that count but does not exceed the "rest of Europe put together".
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covi ... gion=World

It is not how you start that is important, it is how you finish.

I agree with you about new treatments an in particular the second wave of vaccines (that will hopefully be available later in the year) that attack both the N and the S proteins (current batch only attack the S protein) offering therapeutic remediation as well.
I think that we’ve made a good start on vaccinations, and all being well the amount of people being vaccinated will increase each week.

What I’m not comfortable with are Johnson’s promises. He’s overpromised and underdelivered several times before. I wish he’d just shut up and let the people doing the vaccinations get on with it, without the added pressure of patients over hyped expectations
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Kendhni wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 08:18

Fact check.
While Britain is doing well, a simple count is not what is important, it is the percentage of the population that is vaccinated that is important. Britain still does well on that count but does not exceed the "rest of Europe put together".
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covi ... gion=World

It is not how you start that is important, it is how you finish.
You are right in what you say Ken. Unfortunately the link you provide only compares UK figures for 3rd January so it's difficult to see a comparison.

In the meantime I am pleased to see that we are getting on with the process although I feel Boris' mid February target is overly optimistic since there are too many variables which could put a spanner in the works. Nevertheless it is good that he is clearly pushing to get the vaccine delivered as soon as possible and we get as many people vaccinated as we possibly can.
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Kendhni wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 08:37
With the pressure for rollout this is pathetic.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/pfizer-vaccin ... 30574.html
I am happy for such requests to be granted but if someone turns down a slot then they should automatically be moved to the very bottom of the queue before being considered again.
Absolutely 100% agree. They should thank their lucky stars they have been offered one.
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Kendhni wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 08:18
oldbluefox wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 22:27
In the midst of all the bad news something we should celebrate. We have now vaccinated more people than the rest of Europe put together. And new treatments have been discovered which increase the chances of recovery by 25%. NHS🖒 :clap:
Fact check.
While Britain is doing well, a simple count is not what is important, it is the percentage of the population that is vaccinated that is important. Britain still does well on that count but does not exceed the "rest of Europe put together".
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covi ... gion=World

It is not how you start that is important, it is how you finish.

I agree with you about new treatments an in particular the second wave of vaccines (that will hopefully be available later in the year) that attack both the N and the S proteins (current batch only attack the S protein) offering therapeutic remediation as well.
I thought that you intended to get behind Britain and give it your full backing now we have left the EU, or did I totally misunderstand you Ken?
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oldbluefox wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 06:51
Perhaps those whose glass is always half empty will let you have theirs.
I think that may sour the entire taste Foxy, maybe I will just have to rely on you to keep it topped up, even if only to halfway.
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Kendhni wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 08:37
With the pressure for rollout this is pathetic.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/pfizer-vaccin ... -williams-224230574.html
I am happy for such requests to be granted but if someone turns down a slot then they should automatically be moved to the very bottom of the queue before being considered again.


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oldbluefox wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 10:04
Kendhni wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 08:18

Fact check.
While Britain is doing well, a simple count is not what is important, it is the percentage of the population that is vaccinated that is important. Britain still does well on that count but does not exceed the "rest of Europe put together".
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covi ... gion=World

It is not how you start that is important, it is how you finish.
You are right in what you say Ken. Unfortunately the link you provide only compares UK figures for 3rd January so it's difficult to see a comparison.
That link is (supposed to be) updated regularly and hopefully it will be to the vaccination drive what Johns Hopkins is to COVID reporting :)
My only issue was with the metric that implied success purely on a count of people. Next week it is likely that the EU will overtake us in the count of people vaccinated - that does not mean it is doing any better (or worse) than us. Comparison by count is irrelevant, it is the % that is important.
In the meantime I am pleased to see that we are getting on with the process although I feel Boris' mid February target is overly optimistic since there are too many variables which could put a spanner in the works. Nevertheless it is good that he is clearly pushing to get the vaccine delivered as soon as possible and we get as many people vaccinated as we possibly can.
I agree - especially since the my projected date is mid June (although I suspect it will be much earlier). I hope Johnson and our health professionals can keep the momentum going - maybe even learn a few lessons from the Israeli response.

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Kendhni wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 08:37
With the pressure for rollout this is pathetic.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/pfizer-vaccin ... 30574.html
I am happy for such requests to be granted but if someone turns down a slot then they should automatically be moved to the very bottom of the queue before being considered again.
I think given a choice, which I doubt will happen, that I would opt for the Pfizer vaccine over the AZ vaccine as the reported % protection rate is higher - but hey I will take whatever I am offered as some protection is better than nine.

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barney wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 08:42
One thing for sure is that I’m glad I’m not living in France.
They are well behind the curve.
I expect the Eu apologists will say it’s because of blah or because of blah.
It’s really because the Eu moves at the pace of a sloth.
#happytobeout
I was reading a report yesterday when someone in Belgium was complaining that we were going too fast with the rollout and that the vaccine had not been fully tested - this is the same vaccine that Belgium is using - and Belgium have not got a particularly good record on dealing with Covid so I suspect there is some "sour grapes" in there somewhere.

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towny44 wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 10:21
Kendhni wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 08:18
oldbluefox wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 22:27
In the midst of all the bad news something we should celebrate. We have now vaccinated more people than the rest of Europe put together. And new treatments have been discovered which increase the chances of recovery by 25%. NHS🖒 :clap:
Fact check.
While Britain is doing well, a simple count is not what is important, it is the percentage of the population that is vaccinated that is important. Britain still does well on that count but does not exceed the "rest of Europe put together".
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covi ... gion=World

It is not how you start that is important, it is how you finish.

I agree with you about new treatments an in particular the second wave of vaccines (that will hopefully be available later in the year) that attack both the N and the S proteins (current batch only attack the S protein) offering therapeutic remediation as well.
I thought that you intended to get behind Britain and give it your full backing now we have left the EU, or did I totally misunderstand you Ken?
Does getting behind Britain mean totally ignoring factual information that doesn’t suit a narrative?

In any event, I didn’t see anything in Ken’s post that wasn’t supportive of the U.K.
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Someone's pinched the fairs (re. Current Affairs) above post.

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david63 wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 11:22
Kendhni wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 08:37
With the pressure for rollout this is pathetic.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/pfizer-vaccin ... 30574.html
I am happy for such requests to be granted but if someone turns down a slot then they should automatically be moved to the very bottom of the queue before being considered again.
I think given a choice, which I doubt will happen, that I would opt for the Pfizer vaccine over the AZ vaccine as the reported % protection rate is higher - but hey I will take whatever I am offered as some protection is better than nine.
We live many miles from the Dorchester ' Hub ' so am expecting a rural ' AZ ' jab. Am I boverred ... nope :angel:
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Stephen wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 11:44
Someone's pinched the fairs (re. Current Affairs) above post.
Looks like Gill's been titting about but I get an error if I attempt to fix it ... you'll just ' Af ' to live with it

Tis possible that copy 'n' paste was used rather than using the " Quote " option :angel:
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I'm only the messenger.

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Shoot him!!!!
(Is that what you said Keefy?) :lol:
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Manoverboard wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 11:51
Stephen wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 11:44
Someone's pinched the fairs (re. Current Affairs) above post.
Looks like Gill's been titting about but I get an error if I attempt to fix it ... you'll just ' Af ' to live with it

Tis possible that copy 'n' paste was used rather than using the " Quote " option :angel:
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As you seem to have left polite language at the door, I haven’t a bloody clue what you are banging on about

For info I’m on my iPad and always use the quote option on my iPad as it’s too fiddly to copy and paste.

Notwithstanding that, I still don’t know what it is I’ve meant to have done.

Anybody care to politely explain?
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Gill W wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 12:44
Anybody care to politely explain?
When creating a reply I suspect that you accidentally went into the subject line and deleted a few characters

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david63 wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 12:47
Gill W wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 12:44
Anybody care to politely explain?
When creating a reply I suspect that you accidentally went into the subject line and deleted a few characters
Thanks - I can see what you mean.

No idea how it happened, though!

I will step away from the forum for a while as I’m still fuming about the tone of post 8590
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Gill W wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 13:05
I will step away from the forum for a while as I’m still fuming about the tone of post 8590
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Now now....
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If I were to take my bat home everytime someone insulted me, I would be a rare visitor,.....just saying.
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oldbluefox wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 12:37
Shoot him!!!!
(Is that what you said Keefy?) :lol:
I was thinking more along the lines of hung, draw and quartered :thumbup: :D

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Gill W wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 13:05
david63 wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 12:47
Gill W wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 12:44
Anybody care to politely explain?
When creating a reply I suspect that you accidentally went into the subject line and deleted a few characters
Thanks - I can see what you mean.

No idea how it happened, though!

I will step away from the forum for a while as I’m still fuming about the tone of post 8590
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Sorry Gill I can’t allow you to do that…. I’ll have no one left who agrees with me. :) ;)

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